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Old 14 Oct 2021, 00:57 (Ref:4078373)   #1021
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You guys are missing the point - Gen 3 is only being delayed due to INTENSE INTEREST from EUROPEAN manufacturers!!!

When you've got several brands knocking down the door to get into the series the smart play is to give them time. The delay, in all likelihood, will generate more INTEREST from other brands.
Is this the intense interest from European manufacturers they’ve been talking about since 2011?
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Old 14 Oct 2021, 01:41 (Ref:4078375)   #1022
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Is this the intense interest from European manufacturers they’ve been talking about since 2011?
Yes, so you can see it's long-term, sustained INTEREST.
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Old 14 Oct 2021, 09:54 (Ref:4078406)   #1023
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But will the new makes join? It's right to delay it a bit, but don't bet on others joining
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Old 14 Oct 2021, 10:31 (Ref:4078412)   #1024
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You guys are missing the point - Gen 3 is only being delayed due to INTENSE INTEREST from EUROPEAN manufacturers!!!

When you've got several brands knocking down the door to get into the series the smart play is to give them time. The delay, in all likelihood, will generate more INTEREST from other brands.
Which battery supplier are the Europeans going to use?
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Old 14 Oct 2021, 23:27 (Ref:4078515)   #1025
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But will the new makes join? It's right to delay it a bit, but don't bet on others joining
They’ve been joining since 2011, at least that’s what we’ve been told every few months since then

One of these days one will probably hit , but it’s embarrassing for the category (or it should be anyway)
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Old 15 Oct 2021, 10:47 (Ref:4078565)   #1026
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We did have them join for a bit, but I think the boom we had a few years ago is probably over for now
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Old 9 Nov 2021, 01:57 (Ref:4082288)   #1027
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It does look nice, but I don't understand why the bodywork needs to be composite if it is going to be the same shape as the road car?







...A missed opportunity to add one of these (and the Nissan Z) to the grid as a matter of priority?


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Old 9 Nov 2021, 03:24 (Ref:4082293)   #1028
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I wonder if we will find out when they get a shack down at Qld Raceway. I might have to go and have a look if we get to know.
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I'm excited to see how they perform. The future of the series is resting on this, so hope it does the job
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I don't know if this question belongs here but here goes, how long can they continue to use the name of a defunct brand that no longer exists namely HOLDEN.
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I don't know if this question belongs here but here goes, how long can they continue to use the name of a defunct brand that no longer exists namely HOLDEN.
I guess for as long as they continue to enter the Commodore ZB?

"Holden recently re-committed to racing in Supercars through until the end of 2021, and that will happen with the currently homologated ZB Commodore race car," read a Holden statement. "Racing is a strong part of Holden's brand identity and we will assess our options as Supercars continues to evolve its rules for the next generation of cars currently due to be introduced in 2022."
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Old 9 Nov 2021, 23:44 (Ref:4082498)   #1032
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None of that changes the fact that the brand no longer exists as a retailer and manufacturer. I see Walkinshaw's are branching out beyond GM products also and have formed some sort of relationship with VW dressing up Amorak Utes.
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It’s continuing in some sorts. The name is still very powerful in terms of marketing. Although others can get similar publicity
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Old 10 Nov 2021, 04:16 (Ref:4082517)   #1034
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Supercars Gen 3 (2022)

HMS account is still active on social media, but there does seem a push even by them to eradicate the Holden name and replace with AC Delco (I.e. the recent AC Delco Camaro Doorslammer drag racing program announcement).

For the sake of one more year I don’t think it will really matter if they retain the Holden badge on the cars and transition the Social Media and event hospitality under the GMSV account. If done properly this could provide a great way to tie the Holden history more strongly to the new entity - plus a supercar can be considered a Special Vehicle developed by GM can’t it?? (I.e. it is a GMSV)

I am ok with the carbon fibre panels, NASCAR have gone this way also with their Gen6 car , and even more so with the new Gen7 car, so their must be cost savings there.

I am keeping my eye on the QR event calendar over the next few weeks for a ‘private practice’ day event which may signal a shakedown of the Gen3 Supercar, normally Speedcafe etc. get a sniff on these too. In order to get the cars to Bathurst for the showing on the 4+5/12 they’ll need to leave BNE no later 1/12. Free days on the 16+17/11 are too soon, which leaves open dates of 22, 29 and 30th. I do note McElrea Racing have a full-day ‘corporate day’ booked for the 23/11 which would provide a good shakedown date as it would still give time to tweak things and go again early the next week if required - again this is just me hypothesising :-)
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[mention]V8 Fireworks [/mention]thanks for pics, new cars look good!! Agree need a couple of more coupes in there, Supercars should grow some gonads and stump up the full panel and aero development $$$ for the manufactures to lessen their cost of entry to marketing / sponsorship costs only.

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Old 10 Nov 2021, 05:54 (Ref:4082518)   #1035
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It’s continuing in some sorts. The name is still very powerful in terms of marketing. Although others can get similar publicity
That is what I find puzzling, there is nothing to market, short sighted governments and long years of company mismanagement made sure of that.
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