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I will have to go with Lotus, for they brought more to the table in terms of innovation at a time when it was more a free for all of designer ingenuity.
Now the designers still have plenty of ingenuity but it is all more keyholed into exploiting loopholes more than re-inventing the wheel. |
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But there have been many significant innovations from other teams and individual designers, some which worked in the day, some of which have endured and some which have be 'ruled out'. |
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Most innovation seems to fall into the 'ruled out' category these days. Whether you like double diffusers and F-ducts or not, it is rather stifling to the designers' creativity that they come up with this stuff and then it gets banned because other teams are annoyed that they can't figure out how to copy it...
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Also whenever they get too clever the cars becomes just too quick and then the FIA have to ban all sorts of technology, setting us back to even more restrictive rules, then 5 years later they engineers have been clever enough to bring the cars back up to the same speeds and we repeat the process. F1 rules will become more and more restrictive as time passes on for this reason
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That's fundamentally how F1 works and has been for many years. However I have always believed the tiny improvements pitted against incrementally more restrictive rules model is wrong. What is needed is a radical rule change that would make the cars substantially slower, then the engineers could go away and have a race to genuinely improve them without the need to immediately remove there gains to control speed. The cycle at the moment is too short which is why everything is converging on one solution and all variety is being bled out of the sport taking the overtaking with it. Trouble is the engineers resist any attempt to slow the cars significantly when what they should do is welcome it because it would open the door to real innovation again.
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I didn't realise Lotus were the first people to do the semi automatic gearbox - I thought it was Ferrari! Oh well you learn something new everyday. Did Lotus's one had the paddleshift on the steering wheel or did it just do away with the clutch pedal and have a gate type gear change?
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For those of us interested in innovation.
I know its not F1 but WOW. http://sitepalace.com/donmichael/reece/reece.html As it is a slow part of the season, Supermodified racing which BJ introduced me to on this forum is just plain awesome. ISMA super modified racing http://www.youtube.com/watchv=L5xUSL...layer_embedded ROC supers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiFfi...eature=related |
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I think a thread with photos of all the cars blanked out, would be damned interesting! On Topic.. Brabham for the change of tactics re-introducing fuel stops (regardless of my personal opinion on them). |
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A touching story about a boy with one hand, an F1 team, and an i-LIMB.
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