2020 VASC Silly Season

[S griffin]

Well there are plenty of car manufacturers in Australia. It depends what part you are in

[hdt05]

Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Regardless, just as General Motors have never found F1 attractive (despite the huge success of Ford in F1)... Supercars have failed to make the series an attractive proposition to manufacturers.

Either the costs are too high, the return is too low, or both of the above.

It should be affordable to produce and enter a Toyota Camry powered by Toyota's twin-turbo V35A-FTS V6 in the Supercars series. Yet it is not.

Multiple manufacturers doesn’t necessarily lead to better racing or is guaranteed to please the supporters.

Although granted affordability and the series in general could be improved, I am sure our series compares favourably to the series around the globe on a number of levels.

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by Woolley

'I drive a BMW, why would I lower myself?' was the reply.

Originally Posted by hdt05

Multiple manufacturers doesn’t necessarily lead to better racing or is guaranteed to please the supporters.

BMW were told to go away to play in the Super Tourer series, even though they did have a large RWD V8 sedan (at the time, the E34 540i) that could have been entered and expanded to 5.0L. Inexcusable IMO...

[Driver TBA]

10 year contract for Reynolds and Erebus!

https://www.supercars.com/news/champ...r-erebus-deal/


The contract must have pages and pages of out clauses for both parties surely?

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[Matt K]

Originally Posted by Driver TBA

10 year contract for Reynolds and Erebus!

https://www.supercars.com/news/champ...r-erebus-deal/


The contract must have pages and pages of out clauses for both parties surely?

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When I saw this I had to make sure a few times that it's not April's Fools Day today...

[S griffin]

It’s a bit surreal, anything can happen in those 10 years, which can change everything

[leothedrummer]

Originally Posted by Woolley

It's nice to have something to support, although the impression I've always had with V8s was the teams were more important on the whole, and the important thing was the racing was good. The current brand isn't quite managing either of those things.

This. Lots of room for improvement and sitting back saying "good enough" won't help anyone.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Driver TBA

10 year contract for Reynolds and Erebus!

https://www.supercars.com/news/champ...r-erebus-deal/


The contract must have pages and pages of out clauses for both parties surely?

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Is it 10 years straight... or is it 2+2+2+2+2?

[Compromised]

Absolutely ridiculous contract. If they'd given it to Anton it would have made a little more sense

[Forda]

10 years is indeed a long time. Hopefully it won't cramp his style.

[Umai Naa]

He'll be in his mid-40s by then. That's typically full-timer retirement these days. In 10 years time however...

[Sandgroper]

Good On him I say, should have also done the 10% part ownership deal also

[Driver TBA]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Is it 10 years straight... or is it 2+2+2+2+2?

Is it a 10 year contract as a full-time main game driver. Or just a 10 year employment contract with Erebus? Fulltime driver might only be for half of it.

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[Denosaur]

Originally Posted by Forda

10 years is indeed a long time. Hopefully it won't cramp his style.

I'd worry more about him getting carpel-tunnel syndrome....

[Forda]

What/when was the last 10 year or longer driver contract?

Thinking it might go back to Dean Canto's deal with Briggs, which fell over not long after the ink was dry.

[Driver TBA]

Originally Posted by Forda

What/when was the last 10 year or longer driver contract?

Thinking it might go back to Dean Canto's deal with Briggs, which fell over not long after the ink was dry.

Lowndes & TWR.

From memory. Will Davison did or almost did a 10 year deal with Tony Longhurst.

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[Nicholosophy]

Originally Posted by Driver TBA

Is it a 10 year contract as a full-time main game driver. Or just a 10 year employment contract with Erebus? Fulltime driver might only be for half of it.

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Davey is not a 'corporate' driver. He wouldn't fit in at 888 or DJRTP. Betty is not a 'corporate' team owner. It makes a lot of sense to lock in together.

Just because he has a contract doesn't mean it will be VASC forever. She has plenty of fingers in other pies.

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by chavez

The biggest surprise today was that Macaulay Jones had sufficient pace to exceed the pit lane speed limit.

Is it possible we will see Jones out and an ace like Hazelwood, Lebrocq, Brown or Heimgartner in for the Cooldrive racer circa 2020?

Perhaps a veteran like Pye, Caruso, Holdsworth or Tander for #21?

Any chance for Smith in a second Blanchard Racing entry prepared by BJR?

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Forda

What/when was the last 10 year or longer driver contract?

Jason Bright with Britek?

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Is it possible we will see Jones out and an ace like Hazelwood, Lebrocq, Brown or Heimgartner in for the Cooldrive racer circa 2020?

Perhaps a veteran like Pye, Caruso, Holdsworth or Tander for #21?

Any chance for Smith in a second Blanchard Racing entry prepared by BJR?

Why Blanchard?

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by cavvy

Why Blanchard?

Blanchard has the money for a second REC, and BJR have the chassis to prepare it. Blanchard Racing already floated the idea of running two cars, when the Petronas wildcard was run at Barbagello by BJR for Blanchard Racing.

I am not sure BJR themselves have the money or interest to purchase another REC.

With three cars already prepared by BJR, the step to four is not too difficult. The chassis exists, the existing second truck can be used, BJR are already running a fourth car wildcard at many events.

This presumes, of course, Blanchard Racing is happy with the services provided by BJR. Regardless, it would be wise to upgrade the driver of the #21 racer as Jones has been rather unimpressive. Hazelwood or Lebrocq would likely be an upgrade, and the sponsors they bring would be most welcome to top up the Cooldrive money.

The BJR cars are clearly fast with Slade and Percat often running in the top 10. Hazelwood or Lebrocq could certainly do a lot worse than racing a BJR prepared rocketship!

[mayhem]

Some interesting tidbits on the Fox Motorsport podcast from Stubbsy including:
- Boost possibly leaving GRM
- Zane Goddard one of the rumoured drivers looking to share a REC/entry in 2020
- Kellys to Mustangs if they can cut a deal with Tickford for engines
- Kellys depart the sport (rumour McLaughlin had heard)
- Simona all but certainly gone next year

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by mayhem

- Boost possibly leaving GRM

This doesn't sound far fetched, both of their youth "stars" are pretty rubbish. To be fair I dunno how you think you can put 2 inexperienced guys in a team

Originally Posted by mayhem

- Kellys to Mustangs if they can cut a deal with Tickford for engines

I can't see that being a sticking point, but someone is gonna have to stump up for a whole lot of new engines for the pool?

Originally Posted by mayhem

- Kellys depart the sport (rumour McLaughlin had heard)
- Simona all but certainly gone next year

Neither of these would surprise me.

Peter Adderton might be a buyer, but how much would the Kelly's think the entire operation is worth? Their reputation unfortunately is tarnished by the fact that they lacked both the engineering and political wherewithal to put together a winning package, even in comparison to Volvo and Erebus, not to mention Ford & Holden.

As for Simona; Supercars ****ed up when they placed her with the Kellys. We've never seen what she was capable of, and she was a genuine talent.

[E.B]

Originally Posted by Mixer

As for Simona; Supercars ****ed up when they placed her with the Kellys. We've never seen what she was capable of, and she was a genuine talent.

This..... the girl got better results in Indycar than V8's with KR. I think she is one of two or three women to podium in that category. Several race wins in F Atlantic and success in a limited foray into Formula E. Was she not an F1 Test driver?
She is for sure more talented than her KR results show. And more deserving of a decent V8 seat than many.

[ford71]

Yeah I'm really hoping to see her move to another car, not series