V8 Supercars back to TEN in 2015!!!!! (Merged x6)

[dsg]

Originally Posted by Marcos WTF

A boost for regional tourism too!

Meet your mates at a local pub with foxtel. A boost for local business.

[sizzle]

Is it just me or did Warburton struggled at times when it came to trying to justify some of their decisions.

[Juarez Jed]

Originally Posted by dsg

Meet your mates at a local pub with foxtel. A boost for local business.

Trouble is that you have to find a pub that has paid for the 'V8 package'.

Expecting fans to pay a monthly subscription for Foxtel is one thing; charging 'pay for view' on top of that is alienating even more of your supporter base.

I have had pay TV for nearly 20 years, but I won't cop 'pay per view' unless the cost is reasonable.

[eduardo1]

One thing that hasn't really been mentioned here is why the V8s made the break-up of live and highlights.

When they analysed the viewer numbers, they found about 80% of their total viewership was in those six races. So Foxtel is paying big bikkies to have exclusive live coverage of rounds that were watched by only 20% of the viewers.

The actual PayTV component is massive leap forward and, quite frankly is overdue. This is the type of coverage that should have been negotiated in the previous round.

FTA coverage - I get the business case for it, I also get why fans are so upset. I don't have Pay TV and I won't get it - although I will look at their digital platform offerings if it's cost effective. Apparently the Foxtel Go app is very very good.

Superview will be available through that digital platform for international subscribers only - but of course a simple bit of VPN trickery can get around that, so if it's the same as this year you could get the whole season for $40.

[pigs fly]

Originally Posted by dsg

Meet your mates at a local pub with foxtel. A boost for local business.

GO to pub to watch V8's yep right if you can get them to change channel away from the racing - HORSE racing that is so you can watch the V8's good luck.

[Buckshot]

Originally Posted by pigs fly

GO to pub to watch V8's yep right if you can get them to change channel away from the racing - HORSE racing that is so you can watch the V8's good luck.

Exactly, pubs and clubs stopped being for the leisure & entertainment of members and guests a long time ago. Now it's all about sucking your finances dry through poker machines and TAB.

[eduardo1]

Geez guys - the world really is glass half empty with a shot of arsenic chaser isn't it.

The pokies room is usually a separate section, as is the horse racing.

If you go to a pub with a couple of different sections they'll put one on for your sport if you request it. The main area will usually be for football though.

[Juarez Jed]

Have you still not got it ? The v8s will be pay per view, not free on an existing foxtel sports package .

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by Juarez Jed

Have you still not got it ? The v8s will be pay per view, not free on an existing foxtel sports package .

No it won't.Foxtel charged a pay per view model with both Footy Channel Mark 1 and the Olympic Games.Both flopped completely and in Footy Channel Mark 2 and later Olympic Games they were given as part of the existing sport packages.If they couldn't get people to pay extra for these events (and they have never tried it for Rugby League)they are not stupid enough to think that people will pay extra for a minor sport like V8 Supercars
For people whinging they can't afford it the Sport Package means Foxtel costs about $2.50 a day.If you are a sport fan there is so much great stuff on there it is a bargain.

[eduardo1]

Originally Posted by Alan52

No it won't.Foxtel charged a pay per view model with both Footy Channel Mark 1 and the Olympic Games.Both flopped completely and in Footy Channel Mark 2 and later Olympic Games they were given as part of the existing sport packages.If they couldn't get people to pay extra for these events (and they have never tried it for Rugby League)they are not stupid enough to think that people will pay extra for a minor sport like V8 Supercars
For people whinging they can't afford it the Sport Package means Foxtel costs about $2.50 a day.If you are a sport fan there is so much great stuff on there it is a bargain.

True, but the minimum spend that will include the sports package is around $1000 a year. Yes it's great quality and you get a lot of sport for it - but that's still not cheap.

One of the consistent gripes about Foxtel is that you have to pay for stuff you don't want to get the stuff you do. If they simply gave you a menu that you could pick and choose from they'd get a lot more subscribers.

[RedZedMikey]

Originally Posted by eduardo1

One of the consistent gripes about Foxtel is that you have to pay for stuff you don't want to get the stuff you do. If they simply gave you a menu that you could pick and choose from they'd get a lot more subscribers.

Absolutely!
I don't get Foxtel now, never have. Whether I do for 2015+ will depend on what the "V8 package" is, what it costs etc., and how much rubbish I don't want is packaged with it. And if the cost is $1000 annually, they can shove it sideways; will make do with what FTA doles out.

[peckstar]

minumum cost for a foxtel sports package is $74 per month or $888 per year, however this includes access on your phone or tablet

there may be other options for telstra customers

[RedZedMikey]

Originally Posted by peckstar

minumum cost for a foxtel sports package is $74 per month or $888 per year, however this includes access on your phone or tablet

there may be other options for telstra customers

Checked out the Foxtel site, and yes, $74/mth minimum for the "Sports Package."

But this includes the "Essentials", which, to me, are 41 channels that are 100% non-essential. People that sign up for "essentials" only are charged $49 per month, making the 10 channel "sports package" a $25 add-on; with HD sport an extra $10/mth.

Should I expect to be able to get the 10 sports channels by themselves, with nothing else, for $25/month? Perhaps not; but if I get get just the 10 channels of Sport, with the HD option, for $40/mth I might be more inclined to think about it.

I can't help wondering how many extra subscribers they would get if they moved away from the Essentials Plus business model, and just sold people the channels that they wanted???? Also, Foxtel assume that every household is a family. Mine isn't, and the 2 dogs aren't fussy about what's on the box.

As for including phone/tablet access, bah, humbug. If I can't be watching it from my armchair on a decent TV screen, it means I am out, or doing something else.

The other school of thought is to stay away from Foxtel completely, and put the $888 into holidays. Might get to Le Mans once every 5 years!

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

minumum cost for a foxtel sports package is $74 per month or $888 per year, however this includes access on your phone or tablet

To go from $0 to $888 per year is a decent smack in the face for previous V8SA supporters.

[eduardo1]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

To go from $0 to $888 per year is a decent smack in the face for previous V8SA supporters.

The interesting thing is, do you want to pay $888 for only 8 rounds? Given that the six big ones are on FTA - you're effectively paying only for SuperSprint rounds.

Ok, so it's not exactly that simple, but if your rationale for signing up to Foxtel is so you don't miss your live V8 Supercars - that's effectively what you're paying for.

The Foxtel Go app I think will come to $50 per month - $25 for the 'Essentials' and $25 for Sport. If you then hook that up with a cable to your TV it might be a cheaper way of doing it.

[birtek]

Originally Posted by eduardo1

If you then hook that up with a cable to your TV it might be a cheaper way of doing it.

Which you can't do unless you Jailbreak - at least for apple devices

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by birtek

Which you can't do unless you Jailbreak - at least for apple devices

My mate google, which is never wrong (haha) reckons you can buy an iPad to HDMI converter to play stuff off your iPad onto your teev... Here

[eduardo1]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

My mate google, which is never wrong (haha) reckons you can buy an iPad to HDMI converter to play stuff off your iPad onto your teev... Here

Yeah, I haven't really looked into it.

I do know from those that already have it that there's something in the Go app that prevents you mirroring it wirelessly from an iPad or Mac onto a TV, but not sure about HDMI cable.

[Marcos WTF]

Originally Posted by RedZedMikey

Checked out the Foxtel site, and yes, $74/mth minimum for the "Sports Package."

But this includes the "Essentials", which, to me, are 41 channels that are 100% non-essential. People that sign up for "essentials" only are charged $49 per month, making the 10 channel "sports package" a $25 add-on; with HD sport an extra $10/mth.

Should I expect to be able to get the 10 sports channels by themselves, with nothing else, for $25/month? Perhaps not; but if I get get just the 10 channels of Sport, with the HD option, for $40/mth I might be more inclined to think about it.

I can't help wondering how many extra subscribers they would get if they moved away from the Essentials Plus business model, and just sold people the channels that they wanted???? Also, Foxtel assume that every household is a family. Mine isn't, and the 2 dogs aren't fussy about what's on the box.

As for including phone/tablet access, bah, humbug. If I can't be watching it from my armchair on a decent TV screen, it means I am out, or doing something else.

The other school of thought is to stay away from Foxtel completely, and put the $888 into holidays. Might get to Le Mans once every 5 years!

Pretty much my sentiments. If I could get a decent Poxtel package I'd think about it. All I want is V8 Supercars, Discovery, History Channel, National Geographic & some movies. I refuse to pay money for channel after channel of crap. Especially ancient sitcoms that I didn't laugh at
10-20-30-40 years ago.

[Marcos WTF]

Since I'd be wasting time & bandwidth complaining to V8$upercars, I'm going to start emailing every sponsor I can think of.

Ask them how they feel about the much reduced exposure & air time that they'll get in 2015.

Years ago, one email to a team sponsor got me a reply from the team principle.

Get enough sponsors ****ed off and we might see some improvement.

[321Go]

Hearing that it will only get worse in the coming seasons.

Come 2018, it could well be that Bathurst is the only race shown live and FTA.
The rest will be PPV.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

To go from $0 to $888 per year is a decent smack in the face for previous V8SA supporters.

except in my case im going from zero to zero, I now get to watch qualyfying live, the same with practise session, less issues with time limited races

plus i get to watch all these overseas championships like WTCC and WEC and DTM and Nationwide

And i even get to see my favourite AFL team play who incidently is only on live tv for 8 games out of 22, with no highlights package on FTA

Is there an Australian sport that you can watch every game or event live

[pigs fly]

Originally Posted by 321Go

Hearing that it will only get worse in the coming seasons.

Come 2018, it could well be that Bathurst is the only race shown live and FTA.
The rest will be PPV.

IF that's the case then I guess I wont be watching V8's anymore with the possibility that the supercars might not exist by 2018.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by pigs fly

IF that's the case then I guess I wont be watching V8's anymore with the possibility that the supercars might not exist by 2018.

how can they not exist, they just signed a 6 year media contract. They are pretty much guaranteed to 2020 now

[Muznik]

Originally Posted by 321Go

Hearing that it will only get worse in the coming seasons.

Come 2018, it could well be that Bathurst is the only race shown live and FTA.
The rest will be PPV.

Who do they think they are.. U.F.C ?!?

I wasn't that upset as I have pretty much a full Foxtel subscription and I wouldnt have to deal with the BS that 7 dealt up on the weekend. I recorded it Saturday only to find they switched channels or stuck the news in the middle and as such didnt get it all. Ended up watching the Speed replay at 9:30pm

I was of the initial belief it would be live on Foxsports or Speed. If they expect me to increase my already overpriced subscription they can jam it!

Finally starting to understand why so many people are so upset!