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Old 17 Oct 2010, 02:27 (Ref:2775967)   #1
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1986/1987 New Zealand Group A and Production Saloon Car Racing - Discussion & Results

Continuing the theme of New Zealand Group A and related saloon car racing, this time for the 1986/1987 season. Dates of races found so far looks like this:

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1986-10-26 Baypark Raceway Benson & Hedges Saloon Car Series  
1986-11-16 Pukekohe Benson & Hedges Saloon Car Classic  
1986-12-28 Baypark Raceway Mita Copiers International Motor Races  
1987-01-04 Pukekohe Mita Copiers New Zealand Grand Prix  
1987-01-11 Manfeild Mita Copiers New Zealand Grand Prix Series  
1987-01-18 Wigram Lady Wigram Trophy Meeting  
1987-01-xx Wellington Nissan Mobil 500 Nissan Mobil Series, round 1 
1987-02-01 Pukekohe Nissan Mobil 500 Nissan Mobil Series, round 2 
1987-03-29 Baypark Raceway Radio B-O-P National Motor Races  

The Wellington race was very likely held on 25th January 1987. Confirmation would be nice. The 1987 Nissan series would be the last international races for the TWR Jaguar XJ-Ss.

From http://www.motorsportsresults.com/be...Touring.nz.pdf, Glenn McIntyre was the Group A touring car champion in an ex-Frank Gardner BMW 635CSi, races held over the December-January period, if I'm reading the calender correct. Again, confirmation would be very nice.

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Old 17 Oct 2010, 11:54 (Ref:2776103)   #2
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I am guessing you mean ex-Frank Sytner BMW? From memory that State Coal sponsored car was the RHD 635 from the UK wasnt it, owned by Erle McRae/Charlie O'Brien?
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Old 17 Oct 2010, 12:27 (Ref:2776114)   #3
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I might be confusing cars, so I take your word for the McIntyre-635 for being something else. Faintly, I remember this as a dark car, but in there lays the problem - memory!

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Old 25 Oct 2010, 07:44 (Ref:2780023)   #4
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I am currently at my parent's place and managed to find my copy of The Dunlop Book of New Zealand Motorsport by David McKinney(c. 1987).

The book does not add much more detail to the results already published for 1984 and 1985.
However, it does give me brief details of the 1986 Benson & Hedges series, so here they are:

Round 1: Manfeild Benson & Hedges Saloon Car Series
Results
1st Ed Lamont/Graeme Cameron BMW 325i

Round 2: 1986-10-26 Baypark Raceway Benson & Hedges Saloon Car Series Results
1st Bruce Anderson/John Morton Ford Mustang GT
2nd unknown
3rd Ed Lamont/Graeme Cameron BMW 325i

Round 3: 1986-11-16 Pukekohe Benson & Hedges Saloon Car Classic 6-hour race
Results
1st Graeme Crosby/Wayne Wilkinson Holden Commodore VK
2nd Trevor Crowe/Jim Richards BMW 635CSi
3rd Ed Lamont/Graeme Cameron BMW 325i

Championship:
1. Ed Lamont/Graeme Cameron BMW 325i
2. Bruce Anderson/John Morton Ford Mustang.
Some notes on this series. It was poorly supported. The only round to attract a decent field was the 6-hour finale at Pukekohe.
For this round, the Crosby/Wilkinson Commodore, the Crowe/Richards BMW and the Baigent/Bowkett Nissan Skyline Turbo joined the field.
The Skyline took pole from the Crosby Commodore but failed during the race.

Other points of interest - was the round 1 victory at Baypark the only time a BMW 325i won a major Group A race? And was this car an ex-JPS/Gardner car? I assume JPS/Gardner had two 325i that were raced during 1986, as I know for sure that Bill Bryce's BMW 325i was ex-JPS and the Lamont car was also black. The Lamont car was sponsored by JPS.

Also, the Pinepac Mustang won a race! I had a suspicion that the team achieved a podium during their years of campaigning the cars, but I hadn't thought they took a win.
So I now know that Group A Mustangs won two races - the Adelaide Grand Prix race in 1985 for Dick Johnson and the Baypark B&H round in 1986 for Anderson/Morton.
Did Mustangs win any other Group A races?
Also, although only one of the Pinepac Mustangs can be seen in the photo linked below, I have a vague memory of two Pinepac Mustangs in the series. One for Bruce Anderson/John Morton and the other for Wayne Anderson/Graeme Addis. Anyone confirm this?

A photo of the start of the Pukekohe B&H 6hour can be found here:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/n...he1986.jpg?o=5

Of interest in the photo - the Baigent/Bowkett Skyline leading the Crosby/Wilkinson Commodore.
In third is the Billington/Castle Commodore (a Roadways built, ex-Bowkett car - thanks RacerVK for this info) and fourth is the Anderson/Morton Pinepac Mustang. Trevor McLean's silver Commodore and Trevor Crowe's BMW can be seen tucked in behind the Mustang.

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Old 25 Oct 2010, 08:15 (Ref:2780031)   #5
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The Benson & Hedges series was immediately followed by the three round Simpson Appliances series.
This series replaced the New Zealand Touring Car championship. It was also rounds 2 to 4 of the South Pacific Touing Car Championship.
The first round of the South Pacific Touring Car Championship was at the Adelaide Grand Prix meeting and was won by Allan Grice in the Chickadee Roadways Commodore VK.

The Simpson series attracted a very decent field. The final round at Pukekohe had 29 cars on the starting grid, although many were small class Corollas and Escorts.

Outright contenders included the Crosby/Wilkinson Commodore; Allan Grice joined Kent Baigent in the Team Nissan NZ Skyline Turbo; there were BMW 635CSis for Trevor Crowe and Charlie O'Brien/Glenn McIntyre; there were two BMW 325is for Ed Lamont and Dennis Hulme (in Bill Bryce's newly acquired ex-JPS car); there were two Mustangs for Bruce and Wayne Anderson and the newly acquired ex-Dick Johnson car of Robbie Ker/Wayne Huxford; the Mark Petch Motorsport ex-Rouse Ford Sierra XR4Ti was raced by Robbie Francevic and there was a Volvo 240T for Per Gunnar Andersson/Gary Croft.

The duration of each race in the series was 3 hours.

The series resulted in three winners.
Here are the results I have for now.

Rd 1 Simpson Appliances Series/Rd 2 South Pacific Touring Car Championship: Manfeild
1st Graeme Crosby/Wayne Wilkinson Holden Commodore VK

Rd 2 Simpson Appliances Seres/Rd 3 South Pacific Touring Car Championship:
1st Allan Grice/Kent Baigent Nissan Skyline Turbo
2nd Trevor Crowe BMW 635CSi
3rd Bruce Anderson/Wayne Anderson Ford Mustang GT

Rd 3 Simpson Appliances Series/Rd 4 South Pacific Touing Car Championship:
1st Charlie O'Brien/Glen McInyre BMW 635CSi
2nd Trevor Crowe BMW 635CSi
3rd Robbie Ker/Wayne Huxford Ford Mustang GT

New Zealand Touring Car Champions: Charlie O'Brien/Glen McIntyre BMW 635CSi
South Pacific Touring Car Champion: Allan Grice Holden Commodore VK & Nissan Skyline Turbo)
I have complete top en results and a race report for the third round in a copy of Racing Car News back home in Sydney. Will add extra detail when I get a chance after I return home this weekend.
I also have a brief Autosport report of round two back in Sydney.
Unfortunately New Zealand Motorsport does not go into extensive detail on the series, but did say that the Francevic Sierra retired from all three races.

Also, it is worth noting now that all three races saw poor reliability among the leading runners.
The Pinepac team was obviously having a good season as they added another podium result and led the final round at Pukekohe for many laps before the Mustang broke.
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Old 25 Oct 2010, 16:39 (Ref:2780274)   #6
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Other points of interest - was the round 1 victory at Baypark the only time a BMW 325i won a major Group A race? And was this car an ex-JPS/Gardner car? I assume JPS/Gardner had two 325i that were raced during 1986, as I know for sure that Bill Bryce's BMW 325i was ex-JPS and the Lamont car was also black. The Lamont car was sponsored by JPS.
Although not strictly Group A, but Winnie Vogt won the 1985 DTM race at Mainz-Finthen in a BMW 323i. On a hot day, all the bigger more powerfull cars suffered from tyre and break wear, with Vogt taking it carefull eventually winning.

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Also, the Pinepac Mustang won a race! I had a suspicion that the team achieved a podium during their years of campaigning the cars, but I hadn't thought they took a win.
So I now know that Group A Mustangs won two races - the Adelaide Grand Prix race in 1985 for Dick Johnson and the Baypark B&H round in 1986 for Anderson/Morton.
Did Mustangs win any other Group A races?
Again, referring to the early DTM years, Manfred Trint won the fifth round of the 1984 series at Wunstorf on June 11th. A few of the other races were held as two-part races and Trint succeeded in winning one half of the races at Avus on May 13th, Nürburgring on June 17th and Hockenheim August 4th. Good to hear the Pinepac car had a win.

Very interesting additions you've contributed with Brendon.

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Old 25 Oct 2010, 22:55 (Ref:2780453)   #7
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Also, I remember reading that one of the Zakspeed built Mustangs that Dick Johnson acquired was used by Klaus Niedzwiedz (or was it Ludwig?) to win a Group A support race to the 1984 European Grand Prix at the Nurburgring.

Also, in regards to the BMW 325i, I think Tony Longhurst may have won a round or a race in the AMSCAR series in 1986 - though I am sure we'll confirm that when we do the Australian Group A threads.
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Also, I remember reading that one of the Zakspeed built Mustangs that Dick Johnson acquired was used by Klaus Niedzwiedz (or was it Ludwig?) to win a Group A support race to the 1984 European Grand Prix at the Nurburgring.

Also, in regards to the BMW 325i, I think Tony Longhurst may have won a round or a race in the AMSCAR series in 1986 - though I am sure we'll confirm that when we do the Australian Group A threads.
As I remember it, Klaus Niedzwiedz in a Zakspeed Ford Mustang finished second to Tom Walkinshaw in one of his Jaguar XJSs, at the 1983 German GP support race at Hockenheim. But just discovering that a two part Group A race was held at Nürburgring on October 6th and 7th 1984, that would be exiting news.

I'm quite sure Tony Longhurst won an AMSCAR race in either the 323i or 325i, but it depends on weather to regards an AMSCAR race major Group A race.

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Old 26 Oct 2010, 22:17 (Ref:2780908)   #9
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As I remember it, Klaus Niedzwiedz in a Zakspeed Ford Mustang finished second to Tom Walkinshaw in one of his Jaguar XJSs, at the 1983 German GP support race at Hockenheim. But just discovering that a two part Group A race was held at Nürburgring on October 6th and 7th 1984, that would be exiting news.

I'm quite sure Tony Longhurst won an AMSCAR race in either the 323i or 325i, but it depends on weather to regards an AMSCAR race major Group A race.

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Yes i've been trying to find out more about the entry for the '83 German GP supporter. A programme/racecard would be extremely useful!

Just touching on theCharlie O'Brien 635 mentioned in earlier posts, it's referred to in the Bathurst annual as ex Sytner (we know this) but that it was also an ex BMW GB car. I'm assuming this would be one of the ex CC cars that Sytner acquired at the end of 1984?. Can't recall what we identified but that CC had 3 with Sytner possibly buying them all, then selling one onto Mike Newman, one going to France and the other to Charlie?
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As I remember it, Klaus Niedzwiedz in a Zakspeed Ford Mustang finished second to Tom Walkinshaw in one of his Jaguar XJSs, at the 1983 German GP support race at Hockenheim. But just discovering that a two part Group A race was held at Nürburgring on October 6th and 7th 1984, that would be exiting news.

I'm quite sure Tony Longhurst won an AMSCAR race in either the 323i or 325i, but it depends on weather to regards an AMSCAR race major Group A race.

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Thanks for refreshing my memory about the German GP support race. I remember reading something about it in the motorsport mag articles of the time that discussed Johnson's purchase of the Zakspeed built Mustangs.

Also, the AMSCAR races generally attracted pretty solid fields, so I think they can be regarded as at least as major as that Manfeild round of the NZ B&H series.
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I'm quite sure Tony Longhurst won an AMSCAR race in either the 323i or 325i, but it depends on weather to regards an AMSCAR race major Group A race.
Longhurst didn't manage a win in either '85 or '86 in the AMSCAR Series, he won the '86 series on consistency (plenty of BMWs won races though in the series that year, Richards, Rogers and O'Brien in the 635s)
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Also, I remember reading that one of the Zakspeed built Mustangs that Dick Johnson acquired was used by Klaus Niedzwiedz (or was it Ludwig?) to win a Group A support race to the 1984 European Grand Prix at the Nurburgring.

Also, in regards to the BMW 325i, I think Tony Longhurst may have won a round or a race in the AMSCAR series in 1986 - though I am sure we'll confirm that when we do the Australian Group A threads.
Dicks only win a Group A Mustang was the first (1985) Adelaide Australian Grand Prix, which chassis?

Same meeting Gerhard Berger drove the ex Schnitzer Bob Jane BMW 635, the last GP driver to punt a tourer on the same program?
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Dicks only win a Group A Mustang was the first (1985) Adelaide Australian Grand Prix, which chassis?

Same meeting Gerhard Berger drove the ex Schnitzer Bob Jane BMW 635, the last GP driver to punt a tourer on the same program?
Ah that rings a bell!

Did Gerhard get involved in some kind of contretemps with a Commodore or something else?
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Yes i've been trying to find out more about the entry for the '83 German GP supporter. A programme/racecard would be extremely useful!

Just touching on theCharlie O'Brien 635 mentioned in earlier posts, it's referred to in the Bathurst annual as ex Sytner (we know this) but that it was also an ex BMW GB car. I'm assuming this would be one of the ex CC cars that Sytner acquired at the end of 1984?. Can't recall what we identified but that CC had 3 with Sytner possibly buying them all, then selling one onto Mike Newman, one going to France and the other to Charlie?
Yes, that rings a bell. From memory, I think the conclusion we reached in the 635 thread CC/BMW GB had 3 cars as you said- 2x RHD race cars, and a LHD spare (think this was a very early car, ex-Eggenberger?) which were all sold to Sytner at the end of 84.

Frank kept his existing car for the BTCC, and sold the 3 BMW GB cars on at various times in the year- Mike Newman and Charlie O'Brien had the two race cars and the LHD T-Car went to Europe- France or Belgium I think. I'm guessing the O'Brien car didn't reach Australia until the autumn in time for Bathurst, as Sytner was able to run a pair of 635s at both the Donington ETC round and the TT.
Weren't there a couple of other 635s in NZ with Sytner history?
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I've finally had a chance to go through my ever-expanding collections of Auto Action, and here's what they had on the Simpson series. Co-drivers weren't always mentioned in race reports so there may be a few omissions, but a few drivers did usually drive single-handed (including Crowe, Hulme, and Francevic).

Incidentally, all the races began with a rolling start. Was this common practice in NZ?

Round 1 @ Manfield, on November 30

PositionNumberDriver/sCarRace Time/LapsRetirement CauseQualifying TimeGrid Position
16Graeme Crosby / Wayne WilkinsonHolden Commodore VK131 laps 1m13.91s1
231Trevor CroweBMW 635CSi131 laps 1m15.28s3
34Per-Gunnar Andersson / Gary CroftVolvo 240T130 laps 1m15.31s4
425Denny HulmeBMW 325i129 laps  8
57Charlie O'Brien / Glenn McIntyreBMW 635CSi127 laps 1m15.53s5
6 Dave BarrowToyota Corolla126 laps   
717Robbie Ker / Wayne HuxfordFord Mustang126 laps  10
81Robbie FrancevicFord Sierra XR4Ti123 laps 1m14.35s2
9 Ed LamontBMW 325i123 laps   
10 John Billington / Chris CastleHolden Commodore VK122 laps   
 5Allan Grice / Graeme BowkettNissan Skyline DR-30  1m15.58s6
  Alan Prince / Mike HouriganJaguar XJ-S   7
  Inky Tulloch / Winston WrigleyRover Vitesse   9
DNF33Bruce Anderson / Wayne AndersonFord Mustang alternator  
DNF Trevor McLeanHolden Commodore VK gearbox  

There were 35 entries for the race, including 13 under-1600cc cars (10 of which were Corollas), but only 27 arrived at the circuit.

It rained throughout the race, making the outfield particularly boggy and the track particularly treacherous. Most had trouble getting heat into their tyres; Crowe and the Skyline both ran throughout on one set of wets!

Croz took pole (his first on 4 wheels) and drove off into the distance. His only challange came during lap 1 from Andersson, but contact between the pair sent the Volvo sideways and down through the field. The Francevic Sierra went out with a broken turbo actuator rod. Grice went off into the mud trying to lap a slower car and lost many laps being recovered, before mechanical woes slowed the car toward the end.

Under 1600cc class positions:
1 Dave BarrowToyota Corolla
2 Bruce Fowler / Kirk StonemanToyota Corolla
3 Warren Burt / Jeff PascoeToyota Starlet
?46Andrew Bagnall / Bob HoldenToyota Corolla

Under 2500cc class positions:
1 Denny HulmeBMW 325i
2 Ed LamontBMW 325i
3 I SchulerIsuzu Gemini ZZ

Also entered was John English/Dennis Roderick in a BMW 635CSi, but it didn't appear at the meeting.
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