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Thats one good looking 'E' Type! The changes to the nose really work... (IMO!)
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Is That a 'Newey Nose' or just another variation on the theme?
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I've raced against those E Types at the Lime Rock Historic Fall Festival. They are a very well developed & extremely fast pair of cars that either finish on the podium or not at all.
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Bet they have not HTP
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They would not need HTP's but bet they would get them if they really tried when you see some of the E Types that do get them here!
Remember that when PA bought in regs for ETypes at Le Mans Classic a very well known prep per stated to PA that it would rule out 99 % of UK cars. |
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They are lightweight e-types…6 off. Built by Jaguar. Do they have history…NO Are they Jags…Yes. What an arse Lord March was on the telly…Talking Shite about never inviting them or replicas to his private boys club..All the while being buzzed by a gaggle of Listers!! How many of which were built by Brian originally!!! Hypocracy… We should be applauding the fact that a mainstream manufacturer still wants to do something like this and moreover still has the ability to do so.. N. |
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5 Jun 2015, 19:07 (Ref:3545311) | #108 | ||
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Shaun Lynn is no arse and In his opinion they should not be included .
It's an old topic that has been talked about on here for years and people are totally split. In a perfect world only cars with continuous histories should be raced. Unfortunately that doesn't work so you need replicas, re engineered, copies or whatever you want to call them to make the racing work. Amazing that these copies, fakes grow histories in time Seems the record is a B8 with five versions all with same chassis no. The Jags are reasonable replicas but built differently and for a different reason to the originals |
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BTW Charles March has done more for historic racing than all the other UK promotors put together,
May be solely for commercial reasons but historic racing would be poorer without the Goodwood set up. It's his party and he rules. Suppose it's a bugger if you are not on invitation list but that's life. We do not get invitations for our GT's but you just have to live with it. |
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A one day old car has history!! The history of the later cars commences at 2015. The earlier cars have 50 years more history.. Personally I would just like to see 6 more lightweight e-types on circuits racing.. You only need replicas because there are more and more investors buying into racing and convincing others that there cars are too valuable??? Anything can be re-built, no matter how badly damaged and lets face it most old racing cars have been re-built…I don't get this too valuable to race crap that is often spouted..The more valuable a car the more viable it is to repair….I think a lot of people get very rose tinted specs when it comes to these old cars raced when they were new cars, modified, pranged, fixed, re-shelled, raced under several identities….All History.. and everything that happened yesterday is history… N. |
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An historic car in my opinion is one that has a history from the period it raced in.
These new cars are made by Tata whose subsidiary British car plant put these approx copies together. If they want to race them build twenty five more and have their own grid. Are you going to buy one? |
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So by your logic.. If an indian buys an English cottage it is no longer an English cottage. i personally wish that they would lower the quality to the rust bucket level that they were built like in period and put them in series production again at an affordable price. I wonder what that would do for the values of the originals…which after all were a *******ised hooky copy of the original built to win races by bending the race rules of the day.…Its funny how perceptions change over time. I will be playing with my part period replica in July at Croft. that'll do me. N. |
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Kraft now own Cadburys but the crap we now buy in the States is crap and nowt like I had when I was a kid.
May be same building in Browns Lane which is unlikely but that and the name on the car are the only real similarities to those old bags of bolts. |
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What seems to be being missed with these cars, amongst all the huffing and puffing, is that they aren't some dodgy, smoke-and-mirrors attempt to confuse, cheat, blag or otherwise pull the wool.
They have a clear and documented build, by the current incarnation of the original manufacturer, so are hardly likely to develop some miraculous and fabricated 'past life' of great deeds and glory. In that way surely they are the same as the continuations built by Lister, Lola and others? |
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I am in the camp that hopes that the good Lord March keeps to his word and they are not invited to participate in his events, and that in future he also bans such creations as the Newey E-type, which, again to my mind, breaches the spirit of the rules if nothing else. |
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Adrian's thing is untouchable at Goodwood.
Runs in a special class of its own that doesn't require scrutes,HTP's or anything else. That's being important! |
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John, duly noted that you refer to a thing!
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Its just a car, built like any other, except with a bit more care and attention to detail then the originals.. The best thing to do with cars is race em!! |
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Were it the case that they were not genuine, but forged vehicles to which someone was attempting to ascribe a glorious history then yes, I can see that would be a clearly fraudulent act, but these aren't. Get them out on track, where they belong, with the full understanding of what they are and let them build a history! |
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In response to the above two posts, I regret I can offer no further contributions as we obviously live in different worlds.
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Having read and re-read the hand bag's at dawn points of view one un-deniable fact seems to have been missed, the successful lightweight E-type in competition was heavily modified, mostly at the owners expense with very very little support from the then Jaguar company. The 'new' batch are not being 'given' away, it is a commercial venture, with hoped for financial rewards for the present day company leaning on competition results, acquired largely by privately financed efforts. as for Lord March, again, yes his circuit, his party, his choice, to which to which Mr. Ruston is an agreeable convert.....
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