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Old 16 Oct 2019, 22:13 (Ref:3935069)   #201
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The wheelbase on that Yaris looks ridiculously long.
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But if it had a BMW badge someone (probably in BMW marketing ) would be banging on about 'preserving the brand values of the 3 series' iconic short overhangs ' .
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Old 28 Oct 2019, 15:28 (Ref:3937355)   #204
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'The new Octavia shares its underpinnings with the recently revealed Mk8 Golf. This means a reworked version of the MQB platform and an engine line-up that includes both mild-hybrid and plug-in hybrid options. The basic range kicks off with a 1.0-litre three-cylinder turbo petrol engine, putting out 108bhp. A 148bhp 1.5-litre four-cylinder turbo petrol is also available. Both can be had in mild-hybrid form, with near-identical performance but claimed efficiency gains.

The flagship petrol engine for now is a 187bhp non-hybrid 2.0-litre TSI with all-wheel drive and a seven-speed DSG dual-clutch automatic gearbox. Just one diesel, in three states of tune, will be offered initially: a 2.0-litre unit with 197bhp, 148bhp and 114bhp. The 197bhp version will offer the most torque, 295lb ft, and be all-wheel drive and DSG only, achieving 0-62mph in 7.1sec. There will be no mild-hybrid diesels at launch.

However, a plug-in hybrid petrol option will be available for the first time in the Octavia. It’s powered by a 1.4-litre engine and a 101bhp electric motor – via a six-speed DSG gearbox – for a combined 201bhp, a 34-mile all-electric range and 0-62mph in 7.9sec.'






(there is a hatchback and estate version so could possibly have qualified for other threads, but all of the models are still in the 'family car' bracket)
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Yes another VW Group sedan with an Audi tail. This is getting boring.
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Yes another VW Group sedan with an Audi tail. This is getting boring.
It's a hatchback and estate, not a sedan
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Shame that Skoda seem to be following the trend for ‘in your face’ front grilles. Rest of the car looks quite neat, if hardly ground breaking.......
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Let's settle at liftback.
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Having had to look that up to see what it means, then I can agree that it is not a sedan.

"Liftback" is a marketing term for hatchback models
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A liftback has a hatch but the shape is closer to fastback. Sort of.
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One magazine this week refers to the hatch as a ‘liftgate’! More confusion..
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A liftback has a hatch but the shape is closer to fastback. Sort of.
What's a fastback?
It sounds like another variant of hatchback.
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It sounds like another variant of hatchback.

It's a variant that goes back at least as far as the Mustang Fastback which was featured in Bullitt, and driven by Steve McQueen.
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It's a variant that goes back at least as far as the Mustang Fastback which was featured in Bullitt, and driven by Steve McQueen.
Ah thanks - although I think it's a bit of a stretch to include the Octavia in the same variant of cars as the one driven in Bullitt…..
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It shares body panels with the Peugeot 508, and doesn't have a concave rear window.
I think you've posted this in the wrong thread - it's described as a Premium Saloon, a long way from being 'small and family'?
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I doubt the DS 9 will be more expensive than the Insignia or Mondeo.
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I doubt the DS 9 will be more expensive than the Insignia or Mondeo.
Which also aren't small family cars.

What Car refer to the DS-9 as 'New range-topping DS 9 luxury saloon' - which would surely mean it would be better placed in the luxury saloon thread?
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'With dimensions that make it about the same size as key rivals such as the BMW 5 Series and Audi A6'
'Prices for the DS 9 are expected to start at around £30,000, making it a comparative bargain next to most of its luxury car rivals.'

The other large cars you mention start at £19,300 and £24,450 respectively, making the DS-9 a lot more expensive.
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It shares body panels with the Peugeot 508, and doesn't have a concave rear window.

I suspect that body panels will be among the very few components it doesn't share with the 508!


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It's in a totally different market. Think of DS as PSA's Lexus.
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I suspect that body panels will be among the very few components it doesn't share with the 508!
Yes - both are built on the PSA EMP2 platform with common engines.

It would be a bit difficult to share body panels when the largest 508 (the 508L) is

Wheelbase 2,848 mm (112.1 in)
Length 4,856 mm (191.2 in)

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