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4 Jul 2006, 22:23 (Ref:1648475) | #1 | |
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One of the year's greatest events around is Elkhart Lake Wisconsin, the classic 4 mile road course "Road America" hosting the Historic Grand Prix 3-litre Formula One cars [ http://www.historicgrandprix.com/ ] in action on a course meant for all their glory.
Its a stirring sound, all those DFVs (and the occasional Ferrari and BRM) blasting through the forests, down the long straights untarnished with chicanes and the like. This is James King in Vittorio Brambilla's March 761. |
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30 Jul 2006, 09:55 (Ref:1667668) | #2 | |
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Hi Hon
One day I will get to the event as I stay in Baraboo near Madison which, of course, is in the State of Wisconsin
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Perhaps, I can use this thread to encourage our North American members to tell us about their historic race events. There are some great ones, I know, so letls be seeing some threads on here to tell us about them. Would even be better with some pics!
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And links to some entry lists too, occasionally? Pleeease?
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Charles, so that's where half the mid to late 70's GP cars have gone! Excellent site, thanks. Now, anyone want to report on the races/meetings? What about Sonoma at the end of August?
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761-8 is owned by Rodrigo Gallego from Portugal and has always been in Europe. It was originally driven by Mikko Kozarowitzsky, Michael Bleekemolen and Boy Hayje - then lived with Count Donhoff until Rodrigo bought it (and recently won the TGP championship with it). Brambilla's 761 was no.1 and was written off, and he drove nos. 2 & 4 once each (2 is on the list as belonging to Howard Cherry). Which 761 does James King have - it is the car in the opening photo, painted in Beta colours rather than 761/8s F&S properties colours? |
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I was at the Road America historic several weeks ago, and there is bad news and good news.
Bad news; unlike the Thirtieth Can-Am reunion there, when there was genuine win at all costs racing, that does not happen any more and rule changes have been made to make sure. You will no longer see some well known cars,( i.e. Greenwoods original team super Vette,) as the way rules are set now, repairing race damage,or just plain wear, is incredibly expensive. Good new; the fastest cars still lapped at respectable speeds (top speeds 35 years ago) and some boys are not out for a Sunday drive. You will see some unexpected cars running to replace cars that are too expensive to run. A gent had a former NASCAR Super Speedwy Modified (Think of a DeKon Monza on steriods) and if another one shows up at the same vintage meet, and the owners find 2nd place, to be first loser, it could get intereting. (The owner of the Monza SSM, said he went ten seconds faster at Watking Glen, than he had ever gone there before, in this car, and a veteran road race hot shoe, should be able to drop another ten seconds off of that.) As it has been from the beginning, "Vintage" racing in the US is a battle between those who want to see what these cars can really do on modern rubber, and those who want them to just go around the track and go vroom. Bob |
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Or in your case; some of the great racing photographers shooting some of the great racing cars? Shoot us a winner, anything you do is good. |
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Next time I see James King and the 761, I'll make an image of the chassis plate and post (not, of course, proving anything!). The car driven by Howard Cherry is painted in the red/blue of First National City colors, but I'm unaware of the chassis numbers.
Jeff, good to hear from you. Hope our boys can hook up soon D Last edited by Davhut; 5 Sep 2006 at 23:34. |
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What surprised me was the suggestion that 761/8 had a Brambilla connection, given the history of 761/8 is very clear I assume there is a mistake in the number and James King's car is presumably a different car that does have a Brambilla/Beta connection. |
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I've got a complete entry list to the 2005 HGP event at Watkins Glen (as support to IRL), but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to post an Excel spreadsheet or convert it into a PhotoShop jpeg.
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Bob, many thanks, although strictly speaking, I guess this is really the wrong thread for the vintage mostly production car list.... Since this is mainly about Historic Grand Prix, and generally 3 litre F1 Cars from late 60s to early 80s, I see only a few F1 cars or chassis numbers in this list.
Here are the HGP results from the Historic Formula One race that supported the IRL visit to the Glen in fall of 2005...plus a contact sheet of some of the cars. Race Results, September 25, 2005 at Watkins Glen International Pos. No. Name Laps Best Laptime In Lap Ave. Speed Car / Chassis # City Original Driver / Current Chief Mechanic 1 8 Bobby Rahal 10 01:47.164 8 106.037 1974 Brabham BT-44/2 Larkspur, CA Carlos Reutemann / Forrest Teran 2 27 Hamish Somerville 10 01:46.863 7 105.965 1979 Williams FW07/04 Ottawa, ONT Alan Jones / 3 30 Danny Baker 10 01:47.798 8 105.800 1976 McLaren M-23/14 San Francisco, CA Brett Lunger / Ian Gordon & Larry Harpo Ormam 4 14 Rick Knoop 10 01:45.809 8 105.786 1979 Tyrrell 009/1 Laguna Beach, CA Didier Pironi / 5 9 James King 10 01:48.707 9 104.789 1976 March 761-08 Belleville, IL Vittorio Brambilla / Keith Wombat Devereux 6 1 Michael Fitzgerald 10 01:48.767 9 104.769 1983 Williams FW08C Newtown Square, PA Jacques Lafitte / Glen Taylor 7 10 Howard Cherry 10 01:52.424 6 102.827 1976 March 761-02 Fairfield, CT Hans Stuck / John Anderson 8 8 Jon Anderson 10 01:53.342 8 101.559 1974 McLaren M-23/14 Sebastopol, CA Peter Revson / Carole Jayne Spears 9 19 Brad Krause 10 01:52.958 8 101.534 1972 BRM P-180/02 Santa Barbara, CA Jean-Pierre Beltoise / Tony Bright 10 28 Doug Mockett 10 01:56.625 7 100.383 1975 Penske PC-3 Saint Croix, USVI John Watson / Jon Ennik 11 11 Deane Tank 10 01:55.889 10 99.931 1974 March 741 Naperville, IL Hans Stuck / Alvin Brantley 12 5 Chris Locke 9 01:56.694 7 97.694 1976 Lotus 77/3 San Anselmo, CA Mario Andretti / David Rose 13 16 Robert Baker 9 02:03.489 8 94.679 1975 Shadow DN-5 Sun Valley, ID Tom Pryce / Dan Banks 14 3 Eddie Claridge 9 02:07.171 6 93.698 1982 Theodore TY-02 Scarsdale, NY Jan Lammers / Wayne Brown 15 3 Nick Colyvas 9 01:51.711 8 87.430 1973 Tyrrell 007 San Francisco, CA Jody Scheckter / John Anderson 16 2 Bud Moeller 6 01:53.834 5 98.066 1980 Ferrari 312 T5 McLean, VA Gilles Villeneuve / Phil Denny & Ron Cooke 17 17 Charles Warner 6 02:01.270 6 97.124 1979 Shadow DN-9/b1 Memphis, TN Jan Lammers / Greg Elliff 18 16 Phil Gumpert 5 02:08.108 2 88.821 1976 Shadow DN8/1a Indianapolis, IN Tom Pryce / Derek Clarson 19 5 Duncan Dayton 1 --:--:--.--- - 84.644 1978 Lotus 79 North Salem, NY Mario Andretti / Dave Luckett DNS 33 Ron Dykes 0 --:--:--.--- - - 1981 Theodore TY-01 Sequim, WA Derek Daly / Chuck Matheson Margin of Victory: .789 seconds Elapsed Time: 19:14 Last edited by John Turner; 12 Sep 2006 at 17:11. Reason: Edited at the request of the poster. |
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John,
I too would like to see the US style historics scene in the UK. Unfortunately, the TGP is a bit too cut-and-thrust for most of us. There are some (notably Duncan in the Williams) that do both series. For the most part, however, we prefer to race the cars at about 90% or so of capability (which is pretty quick BTW) and at a bit more for some. We still race but the camraderie is more important. For those who missed the earlier link: http://historicgrandprix.com. There are some fantastic photos from each event. |
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Charles, it is my fault that you misunderstood me; by 'here' I meant this forum, so that we can read what you guys on the other side of the pond are up to. I'm actually very happy with much of the historic racing over this side; I think historic racing cars should be raced as hard as possible, but agree that the excessive enthusiasm of those that are regular crashing offenders need to be curbed a little, but there are actually not too many of those. I'd say that we have a strong camaraderie, too.
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I agree with that sentiment. Unfortunately a few wild children will spoil the party. Only though a modified attitude can these cars be raced safely but with vigor. |
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And as James King says, "Our motto is 'play nice' "
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