Juan Pablo Montoya in 2003

Yoong Montoya · 15 Jan 2003, 20:11 (Ref:475496)

It'll be interesting to see how Montoya does in his 3rd F1 season this year. Last year, he beat his teammate Ralf to 3rd in the WDC by 8 points, not bad considering he was fighting for scraps left by Ferrari. I'd say he'll beat Ralf again this year, but I'm not sure how much by. How do you think he will do? This year will be crucial for him.

Inigo Montoya · 15 Jan 2003, 20:17 (Ref:475505)

I say 4th in wdc behind michael, rubens, and kimi, in that order.

shiny side up! · 15 Jan 2003, 20:21 (Ref:475508)

I think Inigo has the wrong Mac driver in front of Juan...

Damon · 15 Jan 2003, 20:24 (Ref:475514)

all depends on how the car is and how many of these new rules get implemented. If the Mclaren is better than the Williams then both Mac drivers may beat him but if the cars are evenly matched JPM will take 3rd.

Doing back to proper cars as the new rules have suggested will be a great help to Schu, JPM and Kimi as it will allow them to show off their ability to a far greater extent then they are allowed now. Next year should be good...

Mr V · 15 Jan 2003, 20:55 (Ref:475544)

If the McLaren is better than the Williams, then it will be MS, RB, Kimi, JPM, if the Williams is better than the McLaren then it will be MS, RB, JPM, Kimi

Damon · 15 Jan 2003, 21:00 (Ref:475550)

if all the driver aids are off from the start of the year then obviously JPM will kick ass

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Inigo Montoya · 15 Jan 2003, 21:04 (Ref:475556)

I was thinking exactly what mr v was. I just have a strong feeling that the Mac will be the best of the rest this year...

If driver aids are off from the start, I think the gap to Michael will be even greater. But Juan will definitely benefit..

Sato san · 15 Jan 2003, 21:08 (Ref:475560)

Quote:

Originally posted by Damon
if all the driver aids are off from the start of the year then obviously JPM will kick ass .

that says it for me too !

Wrex · 16 Jan 2003, 00:42 (Ref:475790)

JPM really has to thrash Ralf this year if he wants people to consider him at Michaels level.

Ralf beat him in 2001, and was close (could have gone either way in the last race) in 2002. Most of the 'greats' start out with a better record against team-mates, and Juan really needs establish himself over Ralf in 2003.

I think without driver aids, Juan will look even better. We know from the past car control is his strength, not his weekness.

Mark Webber · 16 Jan 2003, 01:33 (Ref:475818)

I think Ralf will beat jpm this year . as will KIMMI

Damon · 16 Jan 2003, 15:28 (Ref:476285)

again Mark, based on what? (your dislike of him is not a reason)

Mr V · 16 Jan 2003, 15:34 (Ref:476290)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Webber
I think Ralf will beat jpm this year . as will KIMMI

Well, i think that Pizzonia is going to beat Webber

Back to topic....without driver aids, the gap between JPM and Rafe will grow imo, (as will the gap between Michael and Rubens)

**Peter Mallett** · 16 Jan 2003, 15:42 (Ref:476298)

Quote:

Originally posted by Wrex
JPM really has to thrash Ralf this year if he wants people to consider him at Michaels level.

Ralf beat him in 2001, and was close (could have gone either way in the last race) in 2002. Most of the 'greats' start out with a better record against team-mates, and Juan really needs establish himself over Ralf in 2003.

I support the above statements. There's little between them except for a few race wins.

Quote:

Originally posted by Wrex
I think without driver aids, Juan will look even better. We know from the past car control is his strength, not his weekness.

If he really is the demi-god that some people think, this year will prove it and car failures won't be an excuse.

So we look forward to a great season.

Damon · 16 Jan 2003, 15:57 (Ref:476323)

Get ready to eat your words Mr Mallett.

BootsOntheSide · 16 Jan 2003, 16:13 (Ref:476334)

I can see Montoya beating Ralf comfortably this year, especially with a lot of driver aids gone. Kimi should beat Voulthard easily this time as well. Which of them will be best of the non-Ferraris is a good question. In any case, I think they'll both have their best DRIVING seasons of their careers, the question is how many points they get.

GXH · 16 Jan 2003, 19:05 (Ref:476476)

I think the McLaren will be a williams beater, but if the toys are all switched of then i can see david beating Kimmi but only just, the 1 chance pole will hurt kimmi i think but i could be wrong

But if the toys are switched of the Monty should shine through as he makes a 1st class raw driver.. big set of bounceing b**ls u see

JonesF1 · 16 Jan 2003, 19:16 (Ref:476496)

Quote:

Originally posted by mr v
Well, i think that Pizzonia is going to beat Webber

Ill take that bet!

Mark Webber · 17 Jan 2003, 00:15 (Ref:476756)

Quote:

Originally posted by Damon
again Mark, based on what? (your dislike of him is not a reason)

I rate Ralf over jpm simple as that he will finish more in the points .
I could ask you the same based on what for jpm
I rate Kimmi over jpm
its my opinon they will finish higher than jpm
Ralf V jpm is 1-1 at point

to mr V
Originally posted by mr v
Well, i think that Pizzonia is going to beat Webber

bet you he doesn't

DNQ · 17 Jan 2003, 00:52 (Ref:476778)

JPM and Kimi are the two drivers most likely to take on MS in 2003, simple as that. I doubt Ralf will be anywhere near Montoya if Juan can stay consistent. There is no doubt that JPM is the outright fastest of the two.

**Peter Mallett** · 17 Jan 2003, 06:19 (Ref:476903)

As I said we look forward to a great season.

But only IF the FIA does its job and the engineers don't find another way around the loss of driver aids. Perhaps they should be made to take an aids test before each race?

z2252314 · 17 Jan 2003, 07:13 (Ref:476920)

That was a good one Pete!!

f1manoz · 17 Jan 2003, 08:30 (Ref:476961)

JPM will finish 4th behind TGF, Rubens.... and Nick!

Ok, I'm dreaming with the final one...

Glen · 17 Jan 2003, 09:35 (Ref:476983)

Quote:

Originally posted by Peter Mallett
As I said we look forward to a great season.

But only IF the FIA does its job and the engineers don't find another way around the loss of driver aids. Perhaps they should be made to take an aids test before each race?

I reckon the loss of driver aids will increase Schumacher's advantage over JPM et al. A little bit of help enables less experienced drivers to perform at the level that Schuamcher can achieve un-aided!

However, I am equally confident that a more difficult car will help JPM beat Ralf. The biggest factor with JPM will be on the technical side - if he has been doing his homework all closed season he might at last be getting to full competence in terms of car set-up and then we'll truly see what he can do. Before now he has been decidedly hit and miss in this department and it has given rise to the odd lacklustre race.

Damon · 17 Jan 2003, 14:05 (Ref:477262)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Webber
I rate Ralf over jpm simple as that he will finish more in the points .
I could ask you the same based on what for jpm

JPM has more natural ability, better car control and is overall much faster. He also finished ahead of his very experienced team mate in the points last year.

Mr V · 17 Jan 2003, 15:01 (Ref:477331)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Webber

to mr V
Originally posted by mr v
Well, i think that Pizzonia is going to beat Webber

bet you he doesn't

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Webber
I think Ralf will beat jpm this year .

Bet you he doesn't

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