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Old 19 Aug 2003, 22:19 (Ref:692666)   #1
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As our numbers seem to be shrinking how about form of job share?
Several marshals work shifts or may have other things to do so why not when volentering for a meeting say that you can attend between say 08:30 & 12:00. You could be placed at a post that allows an easy exit. You could then be replaced by somone else who has had to drop someone off at an airport and would only be available from 11:30.
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Old 20 Aug 2003, 13:34 (Ref:693244)   #2
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Re: Part time marshals

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As our numbers seem to be shrinking how about form of job share? Several marshals work shifts or may have other things to do so why not when volentering for a meeting say that you can attend between say 08:30 & 12:00. You could be placed at a post that allows an easy exit. You could then be replaced by somone else who has had to drop someone off at an airport and would only be available from 11:30.
If we had stacks of spare Marshals this might work. The problem is usualy finding enough people to turn up in the first place!

Then there is the oft used maxim "you need to be on the one point for as long as you can - to get your eye in". Maybe some truth to it with quick open wheelers but experienced Marshals tend to be "on the job" no matter how long or short their time on point.

I think a more important question that needs to be solved is how we encourage new Marshals to come along and take some of the pressure of the regulars.
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Old 20 Aug 2003, 16:29 (Ref:693441)   #3
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but if i stayed on post doing the morning shift longer than twelve would i get overtime?
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Old 20 Aug 2003, 21:14 (Ref:693743)   #4
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but if i stayed on post doing the morning shift longer than twelve would i get overtime?
Yeah of course, you can have double your normal rate of pay!!
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Old 21 Aug 2003, 19:43 (Ref:694732)   #6
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i'll nominate myself for the 11:30 shift, getting up for 7:45 is getting harder and harder.
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Old 21 Aug 2003, 19:46 (Ref:694738)   #7
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Old 21 Aug 2003, 22:13 (Ref:694898)   #8
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Shifts! Great! That will make a Chief Marshals life even more complicated - unless of course, the Chief Marshal on the other shift does the allocations.

Anyway, shifts are nothing new in motorsport, I think they are already used in Race Control, that can be the only reason for needing so many Clerks up there can't it???
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I am sure another ball for the Chief Marshal to juggle won't be too hard.(hides as balls of various shapes heads his way)
I've herd one reason for having so many clerks is to intimadate MSA Stewards into letting meetings go that are short of marshals (joke)
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Are there ever any meetings that are oversubscribed with Marshalls?
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Old 22 Aug 2003, 19:12 (Ref:695904)   #11
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Old 25 Aug 2003, 13:08 (Ref:698257)   #12
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Are there ever any meetings that are oversubscribed with Marshalls?
CART/BTCC at Brands this year.

Brands FF Festival can also be.
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Hill climbs sometimes get a bit full. We ran a stand down rota last Shelsley and Gurston could have held hands to halfway up the hill. I've never known there to be too many, though.
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Old 26 Aug 2003, 11:59 (Ref:699295)   #15
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Are there ever any meetings that are oversubscribed with Marshalls?
Steve, there used to be years ago. I remember once being turned down for a meeting at Brands, which was being held on my birthday. The birthday cake had been organised by my friends and then I got the letter saying I wasn't wanted. Clubs can't afford to turn marshals away so because of that I've always refused to go.

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Old 29 Aug 2003, 23:00 (Ref:703092)   #16
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Well having missed the odd shapes have decided to raise head again. I still think the idea has some merits, as well as draw backs.
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Old 30 Aug 2003, 09:25 (Ref:703244)   #17
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Hill climbs sometimes get a bit full. We ran a stand down rota last Shelsley and Gurston could have held hands to halfway up the hill. I've never known there to be too many, though.
This confirms a discussion I had with DW this week about Gurston, however I speak as an ex chief marshal when I say that there is no such thing as too many marshals...the chief that turns someone away one week will come to regret the decision later in the year when he/she is scratching their heads at 8 in the morning wondering how to cover the job.

Year before last I was leaving my option open on volunteering at the start of the season due to possible C of C commitments. Talking with DW I realised on a friday that I could be free to do a day at a nearby circuit on the monday. I phoned the Chief Marshal to volunteer there and then. I was asked why I had not filled out the forms at the start of the year and that it was unfair of me to expect them to change the rules for me when I had not coplied with ther rules from the start of the season! At this point i said do you want me or not. The reply was that they had enough already but I could turn up although I might have trouble getting through security...As i arrived security waved their usual good morning greeting and I parked with no trouble at all. At sign on I was asked to flag as they were short of flaggies....I had never done it before! Had a good day nevertheless but have since decided that I don`t need such grief and so haven`t been there since choosing instead to travel to Silverstone where I have never had a problem and have always been made welcome by offials and marshals alike.
Yes I know I have gone on a bit BUT, If I am deterred what will a rookie marshal do faced with the same ?
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Old 30 Aug 2003, 19:52 (Ref:703538)   #18
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Look if you expect marshals to hold hands im off
Me and the missus holding hands, hell we have been for 20 years. Mind you we don't go out marshalling together often now.
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In my corner of the world, we have several marshals who trade off. They are usually couples with children that need looking after. One works in the morning and the other in the afternoon. Sometimes marshals team up to watch each others' kids. The important thing is to make sure the organizers are aware that you will not be able to work a whole day as soon as you can.
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