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Old 30 May 2019, 16:09 (Ref:3906997)   #901
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Martin Brundle's take on what an F1 car/F1 should be:

"F1 must be a drivers' championship, not an engineers' tech fest. The cars must be the angriest, flightiest most challenging machines on the planet. I don't want to see teenagers jumping in them and having it all mastered by lunchtime, and fully on the pace." Brundle

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/24...future-visions
maybe they should force everyone to use the Williams car?

im sure there are a lot of fingers to be pointed and blame to be apportioned but what Williams are going through, their lack of understanding of their problems and the lack of money to fix them is, quite frankly sirs, the predicament i would like to see every F1 team in.
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Old 30 May 2019, 16:22 (Ref:3907002)   #902
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I donít think there would be a long queue for Williams cars. If it was for the Mercs, they would probably bang the door down

At the end of a day itís a team effort, the most organised usually stay on top and tbh thatís part of the attraction of F1. Seeing which team can make the most of what they have got under them
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Old 30 May 2019, 20:30 (Ref:3907047)   #903
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maybe they should force everyone to use the Williams car?

im sure there are a lot of fingers to be pointed and blame to be apportioned but what Williams are going through, their lack of understanding of their problems and the lack of money to fix them is, quite frankly sirs, the predicament i would like to see every F1 team in.
I think I made the same point in a round about way in the a thread recently (maybe in the "How to fix F1?" other the other that had that same topic recently).

Basically in a way... we are seeing what a cost capped team might look like. The car is not perfect. It has measurable deficiencies. But in the grand scheme of things, gets around the track quickly. Just not quick when compared to it's peers.

If everyone was driving around in something similar to the current Williams it might not be a bad thing. The top cars are so nearly "perfect" that they don't break, work well in most all situations, are likely a dream for the driver to drive and yet... are quite boring to watch most of the time.

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Old 5 Jun 2019, 15:40 (Ref:3908085)   #904
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The Rob Smedley interview in the current Motorsport Magazine is eye opening for what he didn't say.....
Found this earlier today...

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/n...sted-enough-rd

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Old 5 Jun 2019, 17:06 (Ref:3908098)   #905
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Obviously budget was tight, but investing in R&D could have reaped more rewards than it would have cost
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Obviously budget was tight, but investing in R&D could have reaped more rewards than it would have cost
Not if you can't keep the lights on if spending exceeds income...
Williams appears to have found a number of developmental blind alleys, so there are no guarantees that R&D from that squad will deliver as promised..
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Not if you can't keep the lights on if spending exceeds income...
Williams appears to have found a number of developmental blind alleys, so there are no guarantees that R&D from that squad will deliver as promised..
The rot started with the Wurlrus nose....
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The rot started with the Wurlrus nose....
That's an interesting observation.
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The rot started with the Wurlrus nose....
Certainly the most obvious sign.

Could argue the rot started the day they fired Damon Hill?
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I think it was more letting Adrian Newey go. He wanted a bigger stake in the company, but they refused, so their loss was McLaren's gain and now Red Bull's
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I think it was more letting Adrian Newey go. He wanted a bigger stake in the company, but they refused, so their loss was McLaren's gain and now Red Bull's
I think you're right about this, S griffin. Williams have always been very dogmatic in doing things the Williams why and that is/ was part of their appeal, but they could have done more to hold on to Adrian Newey, as it's clear he was integral to a lot of their success. Nowadays, with teams being much bigger and more matrix-style, perhaps the structure for success is a different world from those days, but back then they handed McLaren a massive advantage.
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I think it was more letting Adrian Newey go. He wanted a bigger stake in the company, but they refused, so their loss was McLaren's gain and now Red Bull's
I can't argue with that. I suspect there has been a number of key moments in which the team could have tracked in a positive vs. negative direction. I would say doing Newey wrong (my read from his Motorsport interview) is one big one.

I also wonder if Toto Wolff leaving in 2013 was another. Not that things were good when he was there, but in hindsight, I wonder if he was doing good given what he had to work with. I don't think his exit was as much as Williams pushing him to leave (in classic Williams style) than him realizing he could do so much more at Mercedes than he ever could at Williams (probably a question of the quantity resources available to him.) I think he had (and may still have) a good relationship with Williams that went beyond him having ownership stake during that period.

I attribute his management skills as being a significant factor in allowing Mercedes F1 to execute. Mercedes could have tossed money at F1 and have been another Toyota, but instead they made it work and crushed everyone.

Then again, who knows. I think Williams have said they have identified the point in time (decisions?) that turned them south. I think most assume that was recent with that reflecting on the current cars, but maybe they are looking way back to someone like Toto and saying he screwed things up before he left and gave Claire a mess.

I actually say that jokingly because I think I have seen interviews with Claire and Toto separately and I think they have good things to say to about each other today. If I remember correctly, I "think" Toto was involved in the process of putting Claire into her current position as part of his departure.

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I would speculate that the family made decisions about Frank leaving that have bitten them on the bum hard, simply that and no more. Everything that has happened since has been born form those decisions.
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Williams must do something soon starting from the back every race is not going to attract sponsors and unless they improve soon i have serious doubts they can keep going
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