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Old 14 Oct 2019, 17:35 (Ref:3934415)   #91
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Old 15 Oct 2019, 01:41 (Ref:3934490)   #92
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Old 15 Oct 2019, 01:52 (Ref:3934492)   #93
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For 63 Ferrari being stuck in gravel. This would be a good case for code 60 which imsa should adopt for debris and stalled car situations.
That was actually the highlight of the race for me. Yes they dropped the full course caution a little fast, but that car wasn't going anywhere on its own. However, the events that preceded and followed were great.

First Vilander made a bonehead move inside 10a and ended up in the grass. Then he tried to spin the Ferrari around quickly instead of looking where he was, and he put his rear wheels in the gravel!

Once the yellow came out, imsa didn't send the usual 3 safety vehicles to the scene. Instead, they only sent a pickup that was stashed at the inside of 10. It didn't wait for the safety car to corral the on track action but sped out in a gap. A few guys jumped out and pushed the Ferrari out instead of using the usual tow rope. Then they jumped back in the truck and shot through another gap in the traffic. It was beautiful to watch, and if regulations allowed on track intervention with a local yellow this would have been cleared up in no time.
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Old 15 Oct 2019, 03:06 (Ref:3934507)   #94
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That was actually the highlight of the race for me. Yes they dropped the full course caution a little fast, but that car wasn't going anywhere on its own. However, the events that preceded and followed were great.

First Vilander made a bonehead move inside 10a and ended up in the grass. Then he tried to spin the Ferrari around quickly instead of looking where he was, and he put his rear wheels in the gravel!

Once the yellow came out, imsa didn't send the usual 3 safety vehicles to the scene. Instead, they only sent a pickup that was stashed at the inside of 10. It didn't wait for the safety car to corral the on track action but sped out in a gap. A few guys jumped out and pushed the Ferrari out instead of using the usual tow rope. Then they jumped back in the truck and shot through another gap in the traffic. It was beautiful to watch, and if regulations allowed on track intervention with a local yellow this would have been cleared up in no time.
I enjoyed this almost as much as watching you enjoy it. Still wish they could, in the rules, go with a quickie yellow. Tightening the field aside, it would have kept the same running order, but at least it would've kept the yellow period much shorter. Rules is rules...

Was the Porsche spin and continue after this as well? I watched the 20 min highlight reel and didn't see it.
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Old 15 Oct 2019, 12:14 (Ref:3934655)   #95
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I enjoyed this almost as much as watching you enjoy it. Still wish they could, in the rules, go with a quickie yellow. Tightening the field aside, it would have kept the same running order, but at least it would've kept the yellow period much shorter. Rules is rules...

Was the Porsche spin and continue after this as well? I watched the 20 min highlight reel and didn't see it.

The point I guess is that we want the gaps between the cars to be preserved. These teams work hard over hours to build up gaps of 40-50 seconds nowadays. Hate to see a stalled car throw all of that away. Safety cars should only be used for crashes and inclement weather. Stalled cars and debris should be 'FCY'. The integrity of the endurance aspect of the race is more important than having a grandstand finish. I guess the one consolation is that the winners of the 3 classes would have been the same.
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I enjoyed this almost as much as watching you enjoy it. Still wish they could, in the rules, go with a quickie yellow. Tightening the field aside, it would have kept the same running order, but at least it would've kept the yellow period much shorter. Rules is rules...

Was the Porsche spin and continue after this as well? I watched the 20 min highlight reel and didn't see it.
Yes, he was not punted off track as far as the radio made it sound. Basically was slowed by not taking the racing line but continued on without much effort after he turned in on Pipo. It was both drivers being VERY poor at situational awareness, Pipo was trying to maintain his gap over 2nd and the Porsche was not racing anyone at the time. Allowing the pass in to the corner would not have impacted his gap meaningfully BUT Pipo probably could have also left the pass until he was out of 10B and used the Porsche as a bit of a blocker later, 11-12 possibly.
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Old 15 Oct 2019, 17:01 (Ref:3934719)   #97
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Yes, he was not punted off track as far as the radio made it sound. Basically was slowed by not taking the racing line but continued on without much effort after he turned in on Pipo. It was both drivers being VERY poor at situational awareness, Pipo was trying to maintain his gap over 2nd and the Porsche was not racing anyone at the time. Allowing the pass in to the corner would not have impacted his gap meaningfully BUT Pipo probably could have also left the pass until he was out of 10B and used the Porsche as a bit of a blocker later, 11-12 possibly.
I just know he got bumped just out of 10A, gassed it, spun around and drifted a bit through 10B, smoking the tires on the way out.

It was crazy town at 10A/B the last hour!
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The point I guess is that we want the gaps between the cars to be preserved. These teams work hard over hours to build up gaps of 40-50 seconds nowadays. Hate to see a stalled car throw all of that away. Safety cars should only be used for crashes and inclement weather. Stalled cars and debris should be 'FCY'. The integrity of the endurance aspect of the race is more important than having a grandstand finish. I guess the one consolation is that the winners of the 3 classes would have been the same.
We? This has never really been as diabolical as some make it out to be, especially on "short circuits", in many forms of motor racing. However, my first comment at the time was "He's out of harms way. Leave him!"
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I just know he got bumped just out of 10A, gassed it, spun around and drifted a bit through 10B, smoking the tires on the way out.

It was crazy town at 10A/B the last hour!
It always is in the last hour! Was a big cheer there for the truck that came out and cleared the car as quick as it did. Was fun to watch. Seemed like no one wanted to win at the end there. Mazda, 5 axr, and 31 with whatever close call that was all happening at the end there.
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IDK, but they told broadrun he could walk to the gate at 7 am to claim it. That wasn't met with much enthusiasm on his part...
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IDK, but they told broadrun he could walk to the gate at 7 am to claim it. That wasn't met with much enthusiasm on his part...
It was never mentioned on Facebook either so I'm guessing an IMSA Gold 50th sticker ready to add 10hp and fade in a week?
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Very small IMSA 50th logo magnet.
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Yup, better choice to make breakfast at the camp than go wait for a magnet
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Very small IMSA 50th logo magnet.
An $8 value, that they are apparently out of.

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Yup, better choice to make breakfast at the camp than go wait for a magnet
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