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30 Jun 2008, 18:42 (Ref:2240682) | #1 | |
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The Mid-Ohio Entry list is up http://www.americanlemans.com/Events...try%20List.pdf
P1 1 Audi Sport North America Audi R10 TDI (Capello, Pirro) 2 Audi Sport North America Audi R10 TDI (Luhr, Werner) 06 Team Cytosport Lola B07/17 Judd (Graff, Pickett)* 12 Autocon Racing Creation CA07-002 Judd (McMurry, Wilman) 30 Intersport Racing Lola B06/10 E85 AER (Lewis, Faulkner) 37 Intersport Racing Lola B06/10 E85 AER (Berry, Field, Field) P2 6 Penske Racing Porsche RS Spyder EVO (Long, Maassen) 7 Penske Racing Porsche RS Spyder EVO (Dumas, Bernhard) 8 BK Motorsports Lola B07/46 Mazda (Bonilla, Devlin) 9 Highcroft Racing Acura ARX-01b (Brabham, Sharp) 15 Fernandez Racing Acura ARX-01b (Fernandez, Diaz) 16 Dyson Racing Porsche RS Spyder EVO (Dyson, Smith) 20 Dyson Racing Porsche RS Spyder EVO (Leitzinger, Franchitti) 26 Andretti Green Racing Acura ARX-01b (Montagny, Andretti) 66 de Ferran Motorsports Acura ARX-01b (de Ferran, Pagenaud) GT1 3 Corvette Racing Corvette C6R (O'Connell, Magnussen) 4 Corvette Racing Corvette C6R (Gavin, Beretta) 008 Bell Motorsports Aston Martin DBR9 (Ducote, Borcheller) GT2 5 Vici Racing Porsche 911 997 RSR (Swartzbaugh, Stanton) 007 Drayson-Barwell Aston Martin Vantage E85 (Drayson, Cocker) 11 Primetime Race Group Dodge Viper CC (Feinberg, Hall) 18 Vici Racing Porsche 911 997 RSR (Pastorelli, Pastorelli, Carrapatoso) 21 Panoz Team PTG Panoz Esperante GT-LM (Milner, Sutherland) 40 Robertson Racing Ford GT-R (Robertson, Robertson, Murry) 44 Flying Lizards Motorsports Porsche 911 997 RSR (Law, Neiman) 45 Flying Lizards Motorsports Porsche 911 997 RSR (Bergmeister , Henzler) 46 Flying Lizards Motorsports Porsche 911 997 RSR (van Overbeek, Pilet) 48 Corsa Motorsports Ferrari F430 GT (Jeanette, Mowlem) 54 Black Swan Racing Ford GT-R (Pappas, Lazzaro) 61 Risi Competizione Ferrari F430 GT (Friesacher, Brix) 62 Risi Competizione Ferrari F430 GT (Melo, Salo) 71 Tafel Racing Ferrari F430 GT (Farnbacher, Muller) 73 Tafel Racing Ferrari F430 GT (Tafel, Figge) 87 Farnbacher Loles Porsche 911 997 RSR (Werner, Westbrook) *Not on entry list but confirmed they would be there P1: 6 P2: 9 GT1: 3 GT2: 16 Totals: 34 Last edited by aeroehl; 30 Jun 2008 at 18:44. |
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30 Jun 2008, 19:45 (Ref:2240757) | #3 | ||
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Has Cytosport confirmed they will be at Mid-Ohio? This article- http://www.trackbytes.com/feature-ne...ul-return.html -says Cytosport aims to be on the grid from Mid-Ohio onwards.
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30 Jun 2008, 20:17 (Ref:2240791) | #4 | |
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I hope Cytosport will be there, who doesn't love the scream of the Judd V10 (yes the GV4 may have been better). Anyways, interesting to see that van der Steur isn't on the list (where have they gone???) and Autocon with the new CA07, which will be nice.
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Finally a decent looking grid for a regular ALMS round. Anyone know if the race is going to be on live on Motors TV?
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30 Jun 2008, 21:14 (Ref:2240887) | #6 | |
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Nope. Tape delay NBC Sunday the 20th and 2PM ET and Motors TV at 6PM on the 20th (I think thats BST not CET)
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Alas, a whole lot of depth has not been added to the field, but the quality has always been there for the ALMS, and hopefully by the end of the year the count will top 35 and the car count whiners can be muzzled a bit.
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People who whine about people who are not pleased with the low number of cars--greatly remind me of a certain knight from a Monty Python movie.
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Was that the Knights of "Nih" then Bob , or the one who got his head bitten off by a white rabid prehistoric man eating flying bunny ?
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I suppose you're right. Touche sir. But I just get so fed up with people who complain about the low car count because it is irrelevant when it comes to the actual racing. Sure, 55 cars of ALMS quality would be awesome but 25 cars of ALMS quality is also awesome. I tend to find we're more positive in that aspect, we see the fantastic racing that the series provides and are thankful for it. We see those going on about how the poor car count sucks and react thinking that they're belittling the series for all the wrong reasons (i.e. number of cars plays no real role in quality of racing). Not to play into your hands, but 17 would be a problem, 25 is only a flesh wound.
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Filling up the field with entries below the level necessary to be competitive actually harms the series more than hurts. Some of the tracks are fairly congested with 25 cars and having too many hacks out of their league getting lapped is like a random risk generator that throws a spanner into the efforts of those actually prepared to race for wins. I would like 35+ cars but I remember what that was like at a place like Mosport when there were 10+ that should not have been there...
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*cough* Robertson *cough*
There are however exceptions to the rule. Teams like Autocon are known for being well off the pace, but they generally stay out of the way. |
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IF passing slow cars is problem then getting rid of the GT1 and GT2 classes also makes sense. Slower cars getting in the way is a/the problem. The same cars over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again is what those who take issue with the car count have a problem with. |
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The one thing I explicitly did not refer to was P1. '4 classes' refers, shockingly, to 4 classes, and 'protos' refers to prototype cars of any class. There are 2 Audis, 2 Penskes (yes, Bob, the best of the best for sure), 4 Acuras and 2 Dyson Porsches. The last 2 can be debated, I concede, but note their Sebring performance. 10 protos. Not all keep their noses sufficiently clean, but none of them are Richard Berry either. That's what I'm afraid of being used to make the car count 'suitable'.
Bob, I presume you ignore the GT classes. Corvette may not have competition, but you best believe they are a top operation with great pilots. In GT2, yes, there's a bit of rubbing as racing, but I don't think they should be discounted, though I guess for the lover of the big and flashy they could be considered timid. Great scrapping, though, and the squads of #45 and #71 great pairings, among others. |
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Bob are you serious? Six cars?! Give me a break, yes traffic is important but competent Prototype drivers passing competent GT2 drivers is what should be expected of a series that dare I say it is working it's way towards F1 caliber. Leave the amateur drivers in series more geared towards the amateur!
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Yeah, I detected it. But a majority of the grid is worthy of it's place in the ALMS so it got me in all the wrong places.
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Especially when they get around to putting ~35 cars around Belle Isle come Labor Day Saturday.
And yes, except perhaps for a couple of the GT2 cars, I don't have any problem with any of the cars/drivers on the grid, though we will have to see how the Intersport #30 goes come Mid Ohio. Last edited by Purist; 2 Jul 2008 at 23:15. |
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I agree purist. Thirty five professional teams around Belle Isle, or most street courses is gonna be hard, perhaps qualifying for the grid based on time is coming to ALMS? Let's get back to Mid-0.
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