What happened to Ingall?

Sol · 9 Oct 2005, 09:09 (Ref:1428029)

Between lap 113 and 120 these were car 9s lap times:

2:11.1942 Ingall in the car
2:11.8187
2:20.7885 ?
2:18.0750 ?
2:18.8705p ? Pits and changes back to Youlden
3:16.4622
2:15.6136
2:14.6208

He pitted again later to be able to complete his mimimum number of laps.

What's the story?

I nwas watching the live timing and he went from 10 secs ahead of Winterbottom to 20 seconds behind in 3 laps.

I would summise that Russell was also not wearing a balaclava because when he pitted he scampered out the back of the pits in a sprint. ? Can anyone confirm this?

But this does not explain the loss of time over 3 laps? Was he trying to get his balaclava out of his pocket and put it on?

Anyone know what was really happening?

If he wasn't wearing a balaclava will he receive a post race time penalty?

johnh875 · 9 Oct 2005, 09:54 (Ref:1428109)

Not sure, he was 7th on lap 113 then not in the top ten after 114

marcus · 9 Oct 2005, 09:54 (Ref:1428110)

god who knows ???

But thats what Cromley suggested in the commentry , whether he did or not I have no idea but6 it looked a bit suspicious didnt it ?

johnh875 · 9 Oct 2005, 10:13 (Ref:1428128)

Leigh Diffey also said about lap 155 that Ingall pitted because he didn't have a balaclava on, but I am not sure he didn't mean Ambrose

Sol · 9 Oct 2005, 10:36 (Ref:1428151)

For 3 laps he drove around 10 secs off the pace and no mention is made in the post race PR from SBR. What gives?

They have would have finished much higher up if not for this, even though they pitted an extra time.

johnh875 · 9 Oct 2005, 11:07 (Ref:1428193)

I better clarify my second post (that 10min limit) - Diffey made the comment on lap 155/156, referring to earlier in the race, which may have been in the 113-120 period. I was watching the telecast, from memory apart from the car 18/34 incident at the Elbow it was fairly uneventful in that period.

Mattracer · 10 Oct 2005, 03:56 (Ref:1429042)

Not sure of the lap it was but car 9 did pit tyo change at least the rh side front brake rotor and Ingall was in the car at that stop. Played a part??

**GTRMagic** · 10 Oct 2005, 05:23 (Ref:1429080)

I was surprised the team put Mr Youlden back in the car.... Rusty should have been able to run to the end... unless the codriver hadnt done enough laps???

Meantime, the Caltex car is badly damaged from its bumps and scrapes from the weekend, I wonder whether they also impacted the speed of the car at some stage.

Superquick stop to change the 800km old disc rotors too....

Had the race lasted 10 more laps, Rusty was quick enough to be podium material....

Oh well... championship lead isnt all bad

stoned pony · 10 Oct 2005, 05:31 (Ref:1429086)

Interesting about the rotor change. Is this something we can expect to see in the future? Rather than do a pad change will they soon be changing the entire brake set-up?

**GTRMagic** · 10 Oct 2005, 05:49 (Ref:1429100)

I dont know how quick it would be to take the whole calipers off, with rotors, pads and the like.... it would be the best solution... in terms of bolting on a complete unit

In AA this week, they made mention of the disc rotors being tested on the 888 cars, and swapped around all day... so maybe they get lots of practice in on these days for the race weekend?

A couple of screwdrivers in the cooling vanes, and whammo... off comes a white hot rotor...

chavez · 10 Oct 2005, 06:25 (Ref:1429118)

Ingall had cramps.

**GTRMagic** · 10 Oct 2005, 06:41 (Ref:1429130)

Barry Oliver reported on-track that David Brabham was pulled out of the #6 car early with cramps.....

I wonder whether Rusty's came as a result of a compromised seating position to fit the taller Mr Youlden in?

They obviously got better though... the #9 car was the quickest around near the end...

storyline · 10 Oct 2005, 07:21 (Ref:1429154)

Brakes - considering that they are still able to change pads whilst refuelling is taking place (ie fuel takes longer) the additional 15-20 second a rotor change takes is negligible and, considering the advantage a new rotor could potentially give - why not do it?

**GTRMagic** · 10 Oct 2005, 07:48 (Ref:1429176)

The drivers would probably enjoy some of the more aggressive cuts/drill patterns to the rotors to improve pedal feel if it could be maintained all race (i.e. without eating the pads to death) if they knew the rotor could also be changed....

Although there would still have to be some heat cycling of the rotor to bring it up to temperature....

There was a suggestion from the on-course commentary team that perhaps the 2nd Tasman car had a brake rotor explode.....

retro · 10 Oct 2005, 09:05 (Ref:1429282)

I heard on the radio's that at one of the pitstops they couldn't get the wheel(rear wheel I think) off and they told Ingall to come in next time around.

Must have been a safety car period. I can't remember what lap that was but it was towards the endish.

(so much action over the day my brains feel like scrammbled eggs)

I thought the brake cam was a pretty good demonstration of the torture the rotor takes.

ensign14 · 10 Oct 2005, 09:08 (Ref:1429285)

Suffering from itchy balaclava.

Sol · 10 Oct 2005, 09:20 (Ref:1429296)

OK, if Rusty had cramps then this explains the lap times falling away dramatically, then pitting, putting Youlden back in the car for 10 laps or so until the last pit stop.

I am almost certain Youlden had done the required laps in his double stint, so I don't think that was an issue.

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