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Old 27 Mar 2013, 00:39 (Ref:3225337)   #1
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So... if Ford decides to stop supporting FPR, and the series itself, at the end of this calendar year... as suggested by AA today...

... where to for FPR... and DJR...

Does it also explain the lack of Ford branding on the #18 and #55 cars this year?
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Old 27 Mar 2013, 00:49 (Ref:3225340)   #2
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Old 27 Mar 2013, 05:54 (Ref:3225388)   #3
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Old 27 Mar 2013, 06:54 (Ref:3225396)   #4
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just a stab after reading that V8 confidential twitter thing, who knows if the bloke is acurate though:
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just a stab after reading that V8 confidential twitter thing, who knows if the bloke is acurate though:
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Old 27 Mar 2013, 08:42 (Ref:3225415)   #6
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All I can say is good on Ford for making the correct decision putting the future of the familys of their workers before motorsport. Any one that disagrees with this. Put your self in the shoes of some Ford worker that has lost their job and continued to see Ford tipping money into V8 supercars.
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So... if Ford decides to stop supporting FPR, and the series itself, at the end of this calendar year... as suggested by AA today...

... where to for FPR... and DJR...

Does it also explain the lack of Ford branding on the #18 and #55 cars this year?


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Old 27 Mar 2013, 09:24 (Ref:3225427)   #9
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I thinki that would be the end of my interest
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Old 27 Mar 2013, 09:41 (Ref:3225434)   #10
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It wouldn't bother me if they pulled out.

It's not like they're being kicked out.
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Old 27 Mar 2013, 09:42 (Ref:3225435)   #11
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Noooooooooooooooooooo!!! hope its an april fools joke.
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Doesn't mean Ford cars wont be on the Grid tho does it
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Old 27 Mar 2013, 09:48 (Ref:3225438)   #13
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do you really think they'll be competitive without Ford's support?
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do you really think they'll be competitive without Ford's support?
as lomg as they can get another financial backer there is no reason why not. they have the technology alreday

But a four car team with reasonable form is a good option for another manufacturer
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Depends on what sort of funding the team can get its not the word Ford on the windscreen that makes a car competitive. Its the cash the team has. Do you think 888 would not be competitive without factory backing?
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Depends on what sort of funding the team can get its not the word Ford on the windscreen that makes a car competitive. Its the cash the team has. Do you think 888 would not be competitive without factory backing?
recent history would say yes they would have.
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henry ford was always a believer that you still had to put money into advertising in order to sell cars, even in poor economic times.
i would have thought that having fpr on the grid would be a relatively small spend to satisfy the fpv and falcon faithful.
taurus or mondeo panels could have gone on in the future when the falcon was done and dusted without any major investment needed by the factory in engine or mechanical development with the current rules.
ford dropping out would have to bring into question the level of continued support for all the holden teams in the future surely ?
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Probably alot to do with this, if its true
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An interesting scenario seems to have popped up out of the powder room as a possibility...

... that Ford may be leaving FPR as opposed to V8Supercar for a whole series of performance reasons... and may in fact be shopping for another team to operate a factory-assisted operation...

A story goes that a current non-factory supported Holden team, who may or may not be sniffing around for a works deal with some carmaker or other, may in fact have pitched the blue oval for some factory assistance, to cover the cost of transition, and some contribution to operating budgets for the next few years.

The boys in the powder room are wondering if their ask, of around $1m for a conversion fund, and about the same as an annual contribution.. might be more attractive to them than the current, underperforming 4 car operation that absorbs more than these numbers just buying morning tea for the cast of thousands...

Possible? Maybe.. Probable.. dont quite know...

Presuming any of this actually happened
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An interesting scenario seems to have popped up out of the powder room as a possibility...

... that Ford may be leaving FPR as opposed to V8Supercar for a whole series of performance reasons... and may in fact be shopping for another team to operate a factory-assisted operation...

A story goes that a current non-factory supported Holden team, who may or may not be sniffing around for a works deal with some carmaker or other, may in fact have pitched the blue oval for some factory assistance, to cover the cost of transition, and some contribution to operating budgets for the next few years.

The boys in the powder room are wondering if their ask, of around $1m for a conversion fund, and about the same as an annual contribution.. might be more attractive to them than the current, underperforming 4 car operation that absorbs more than these numbers just buying morning tea for the cast of thousands...

Possible? Maybe.. Probable.. dont quite know...

Presuming any of this actually happened
given Walkinshaw and 888 are factory backed that would leave Tekno, BJR, GRM & LDM. the only realistic one i would see would be Tekno or BJR and really outside of early this year they havn't out performed FPR.
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An interesting scenario seems to have popped up out of the powder room as a possibility...

... that Ford may be leaving FPR as opposed to V8Supercar for a whole series of performance reasons... and may in fact be shopping for another team to operate a factory-assisted operation...

A story goes that a current non-factory supported Holden team, who may or may not be sniffing around for a works deal with some carmaker or other, may in fact have pitched the blue oval for some factory assistance, to cover the cost of transition, and some contribution to operating budgets for the next few years.

The boys in the powder room are wondering if their ask, of around $1m for a conversion fund, and about the same as an annual contribution.. might be more attractive to them than the current, underperforming 4 car operation that absorbs more than these numbers just buying morning tea for the cast of thousands...

Possible? Maybe.. Probable.. dont quite know...

Presuming any of this actually happened
Great story! If it's true, I'd lean towards BJR.
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Great story! If it's true, I'd lean towards BJR.
I'd actually be thinking GRM, although given their recent success with Holden's it's likely they'd be reconsidering switching.
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I'd actually be thinking GRM, although given their recent success with Holden's it's likely they'd be reconsidering switching.
You might well be on the money there

Getting no financial assistance from a car maker, other than access to an engine program they have to pay for, may be a motivation to switch
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You might well be on the money there

Getting no financial assistance from a car maker, other than access to an engine program they have to pay for, may be a motivation to switch
At this stage in his life, would GR be up for the extra work load instead of enjoying the fishing boat and golf course ?
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