BTCC BTCC 2018 - Rounds 16, 17, 18 - Snetterton - Page 7

Akrapovic · 29 Jul 2018, 17:23 (Ref:3839992)

That was great fun, especially the battle for 6th. Great fun. Double the distance (ish), double the drama. Goff is really getting good at this. Love a good Ingram result. Nice strop from old JP to round off his weekend.

Robin Marriott · 29 Jul 2018, 17:24 (Ref:3839993)

Hopefully Gow will implement longer 3rd races again, that was very entertaining in comparison to a normal 3rd race.

BobJones · 29 Jul 2018, 17:24 (Ref:3839994)

That was fun, can we do that every year, please?

Not sure what Smiley was thinking there, provided action, but clumsy.

Well done Bobby Thompson.

Shame for Morgan.

Tordoff paid the price all weekend for going on holiday instead of testing. If you're not committed, take your dad's money elsewhere.

porsche962fan · 29 Jul 2018, 17:26 (Ref:3839995)

Tingram took championship lead

Neal bounces back to 3rd

Londoner · 29 Jul 2018, 17:26 (Ref:3839996)

Really hope we get some more feature length races next year, that was tremendous fun. Neal winning it is somewhat fitting really, given how long he's been in the BTCC.

pimmy · 29 Jul 2018, 17:27 (Ref:3839997)

That was great to watch. More races like this please, Alan!

Evantra · 29 Jul 2018, 17:28 (Ref:3839998)

Bit messy at the end there... Ingram back leading the championship

Glad it didn't come down to tyres though - props to Dunlop!

I really like Smiley but I agree, he needs to calm down a bit.

Good to see Thompson getting some good finishes - seems HARD have got a handle on at least one of the VWs...

If they do do this again, I's rather they do it as well as the normal weekend rather than instead of a normal race - maybe on a bank holiday Monday or something.

pimmy · 29 Jul 2018, 17:36 (Ref:3840000)

They should make this the regular format. Normal BTCC races are too short.

Matt K · 29 Jul 2018, 17:39 (Ref:3840002)

I'd like to see such a format implemented for all weekends, absolutely, way better than ridiculous reversing grid by draw.
I'd rather see Goff winning than Neal but the latter did a great race. BMWs were absolutely off pace the whole weekend, AJ the best of all three but still without realistic chances for podium, let alone win. Shame. Turks a really bad weekend, after this action in R3 it's a miracle he's still in the Top3 of the championship.
Sutton was unlucky with the Safety Car, having been released by it in not a good moment.
Plato one of the most miserable drivers of the weekend, like him or not, it's sad to see such a driver struggling so much. I'll be surprised if he's still in the BTCC in 2019. Even more surprised if he's still with BMR.

BillWiskins · 29 Jul 2018, 17:42 (Ref:3840003)

+1 to the 'can we have more of this, please'.

redshoes · 29 Jul 2018, 17:44 (Ref:3840004)

One thing I dislike about the current 3-race format is that one mistake in race one effectively kills your entire race weekend. DNF in race 1 means starting from the back in race 2 and unless you have a mega race you will be lucky to finish better than midfield, which means a mid-grid start in race 2 and you'll be lucky to pick up more than a couple of points all weekend. At Snetterton race 2 we saw more drivers prepared to take risks knowing it wouldn't effect their race 3 grid position.

The longer race 3 worked very well, although I appreciate the changeable weather helped. So how's this for a proposal. Next year, instead of 3x short races lets have 2x longer races. Ditch the reverse grid goldfish bowl nonsense and have two separate qualifying sessions, and keep them short, say just 20 mins each. With everyone on wets in race 1, everyone on soft in race 2, and everyone on primes in race 2, Snetterton proved that we don't need the mix of some drivers on option tyres either.

I can live with some element of success ballast, but lets get away from some of the gimmicks. Of course, I realise that not how BTCC works these days.

porsche962fan · 29 Jul 2018, 17:45 (Ref:3840006)

^ you all miss a point

it might be dangerous such a long race in scorching heat, this time it was cold so no such issue

Akrapovic · 29 Jul 2018, 17:46 (Ref:3840007)

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

^ you all miss a point

it might be dangerous such a long race in scorching heat

Sarcasm?

porsche962fan · 29 Jul 2018, 17:47 (Ref:3840008)

dunno if ITV would really want longer races

Akrapovic · 29 Jul 2018, 17:59 (Ref:3840011)

I'm sure ITV can find an extra 20 minutes given how many channels they have.

And if the heat is a little bit much for a 45 minute race then I politely suggest someone "man up" and go try the Spa 24 hours or similar.

redshoes · 29 Jul 2018, 17:59 (Ref:3840012)

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

dunno if ITV would really want longer races

Just means having more ad breaks between races and 45 ish mins without ads. They seem to be able to cope with 45 mins of football without breaks.

psq43 · 29 Jul 2018, 18:19 (Ref:3840014)

Anyone know why JP had another strop?

Racer65 · 29 Jul 2018, 18:23 (Ref:3840015)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

I'm sure ITV can find an extra 20 minutes given how many channels they have.

And if the heat is a little bit much for a 45 minute race then I politely suggest someone "man up" and go try the Spa 24 hours or similar.

The cars in those 24 hour races have full aircon systems and strict rules over the maximum temperature in the cockpit.

Akrapovic · 29 Jul 2018, 18:27 (Ref:3840016)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer65

The cars in those 24 hour races have full aircon systems and strict rules over the maximum temperature in the cockpit.

They don't all have full air conditioning systems. Some do, some don't and it varys per car, class and series. Rules regarding cockpit temperature vary per series. They also tend to have drive time limits of around 4 hours. TCR cars are included in this as well.

If they can manage all of that, then BTCC can manage 45 minutes. If someone is looking for an excuse not to repeat the awesomeness that was that last race, then "it's too long for the heat" is a little wet.

CarfanLUFC · 29 Jul 2018, 19:06 (Ref:3840020)

Great day of racing. Tingram was brilliant in race 2

Embarrassing from Plato.

Alfisti · 29 Jul 2018, 19:44 (Ref:3840024)

Didn't see Platos strop; but his qualifying was his effort, his race 1 crash just one of those things, race 2 was driver error, and race 3: not bad, but when you compare to Tingrams race 2 charge was just average.

Either JP needs to retire or get into a good FWD car. He has not adapted to RWD in my opinion. Ash Sutton took to it pretty darn quick.

**touringlegend** · 29 Jul 2018, 19:49 (Ref:3840027)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Either JP needs to retire or get into a good FWD car. He has not adapted to RWD in my opinion. Ash Sutton took to it pretty darn quick.

What’s the odds on JP getting a team going for next year, TOCA May have a few TBLS to loan out?

Alfisti · 29 Jul 2018, 19:50 (Ref:3840028)

I too liked the longer race; the old two race sprint and feature race added variety. Please Mr Gow, take today and make this the formula going forwards: and by that I mean both the longer race and the seperate qualy for it.

I'm sure the boys and girls at Dunlop can make more durable tyres for longer races. As for heat - stick some more ventilation in. When you consider how long and how hot the temperatures can be for a NASCAR Cup race a BTCC is a cold little practice session. For the non NASCAR viewing amongst you 3 + hours is common and I remember a thermometer in Kyle Buschs car reading 151 farenheit (66 celsius!) a couple of weeks back.

Oh, Goff really impressed me - this young man is the real deal - I can see he and Tingram being as big names as Neal and Plato. Pleased to see Matt win too, just seemed right. Rooting for him to win the championship!

Evantra · 29 Jul 2018, 19:52 (Ref:3840029)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Didn't see Platos strop; but his qualifying was his effort, his race 1 crash just one of those things, race 2 was driver error, and race 3: not bad, but when you compare to Tingrams race 2 charge was just average.

Either JP needs to retire or get into a good FWD car. He has not adapted to RWD in my opinion. Ash Sutton took to it pretty darn quick.

Seeing as Sutton (comfortably) took a 1st and a 2nd, he can't really put blame on straight line speed again... bet you he does though

As today's racing once again proved, the BTCC can do just fine without him.

On a brighter note Proctor was penalised in R3, promoting Thompson to a top 10 finish in the VW!

porsche962fan · 29 Jul 2018, 20:52 (Ref:3840042)

I am surprised that Shedden is so often in the Dynamics garage , maybe he thinks of returning "home "

standings are very close , this guys could still all bang it , Morgan looks out of the title fight

Tingram 189
Turkington 183
Neal 173
Goff 172
Cook 157
Jordan 157
Sutton 150
Chilton 148

Morgan 122

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