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Old 5 Jul 2004, 20:20 (Ref:1027194)   #1
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Would F1 Pit Strategy work in Champ Cars?

Watching the French Grand Prix yesterday made me wonder if the pit strategies used in F1 would make for better racing in Champ Cars. I would personally think so beecause it would let the teams themselves when would be the best time to pit, and how often they really need to.

Or would it not make a difference? What do you all think?:confused:
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Old 5 Jul 2004, 22:30 (Ref:1027446)   #2
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No IMHO! Champcars mess about with there pits enough as it is. Keep them on-track racing. OK, I've said that, but there are reasons why it doesn't work:

This is, sort of, what Champcar has now, but it works in a different way due to different circumstances.

There is nothing to sop you trying it in Champcar, but the full coarse yellows are too frequent. Having a different strategy means that you, at certain points, need to be able to make time up on an opponent. Any advantage built up can be lost in no time at all if there is a pace car. So it naturally means that the number of stints is reduced.

Any green flag stop rule only reduces the scope for startegy change IMHO. At least in terms of shifting from say a two or three.

A different style of racing that doesn't lend it to the same kind of strategy as in F1.

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Old 5 Jul 2004, 22:43 (Ref:1027458)   #3
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Good point. F1 does not have full course yellows generally.
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Old 5 Jul 2004, 23:11 (Ref:1027473)   #4
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For those who can mix their series we interestingly have Champcar doing an F1 thing here and in the F1 forum we have the opposite: Does Formula 1 Need One Oval Race.

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Interesting post. But nonetheless you can't help but look at other racing series and seeing what they are doing without thinking if that is the best thing for the series that you are supporting.
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True. I think that Champcars looks at such things as well. Taking pitstops as an example. They have changed, tweaked and played with the rules quite a bit recently. On road coarses and ovals. They are not afraid to change to on a race by race basis - although that isn't all good.
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Yeah right. You would think that with all of the tweaking that Champ Car has done, they would have found a formula that is right.
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full course yellows are ridiculous on road courses, as are the champcar mandatory fgreenflag stops- this is something i never understood
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Re: Would F1 Pit Strategy work in Champ Cars?

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Watching the French Grand Prix yesterday made me wonder if the pit strategies used in F1 would make for better racing in Champ Cars. I would personally think so beecause it would let the teams themselves when would be the best time to pit, and how often they really need to.

Or would it not make a difference? What do you all think?:confused:
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Old 6 Jul 2004, 18:07 (Ref:1028336)   #10
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Re: Would F1 Pit Strategy work in Champ Cars?

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Watching the French Grand Prix yesterday made me wonder if the pit strategies used in F1 would make for better racing in Champ Cars. I would personally think so beecause it would let the teams themselves when would be the best time to pit, and how often they really need to.

Or would it not make a difference? What do you all think?:confused:
I belive the ratio of course length to `in->out' time would be the deciding factor. On longer courses it would definitely be useful.
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Good point. F1 does not have full course yellows generally.
F1 doesn't show yellows, when sometimes they really should. OWRS has yellow flags because somebody spins out off the racing line, even at the beginning of a race, when they should have more than enough time to get the car going again before the field comes around again. Why can't they wait to throw the full course until the cars are coming around to the start/finish line again, instead of throwing it immediately? I really wish there was some middle ground between F1 and what OWRS uses now.
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In terms of pit stops, OWRS should say - pit whenever you want

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