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Old 27 Oct 2012, 11:47 (Ref:3158433)   #1251
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Why do Rebellion need a new car!?
Their current car works fine, and with the Multimatic/Haas deal, there will be spares for next year too.

They only need a new car for 2014, where everybody needs it.
Because as you said, that hypothetical deal has more future at this moment

...and probably the DOME has more potential than their current Lola
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Old 27 Oct 2012, 12:38 (Ref:3158454)   #1252
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Because as you said, that hypothetical deal has more future at this moment

...and probably the DOME has more potential than their current Lola
Agreed that a beginning partnership between Rebellion and Dome would be profitable for both, but both have the wishes of becoming the next Joest/Oreca.

Their Lola cars works perfectly right now, and i see no reason to throw them away. Besides the Toyota engines would need adapting to the Dome chassis, and we do not know if the Engine's are Rebellions own, or leased by Toyota.
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Old 27 Oct 2012, 13:10 (Ref:3158467)   #1253
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Agreed that a beginning partnership between Rebellion and Dome would be profitable for both, but both have the wishes of becoming the next Joest/Oreca.

Their Lola cars works perfectly right now, and i see no reason to throw them away. Besides the Toyota engines would need adapting to the Dome chassis, and we do not know if the Engine's are Rebellions own, or leased by Toyota.
.... and there is clearly bad blood between Dome and Toyota.
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Old 27 Oct 2012, 16:30 (Ref:3158549)   #1254
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Rebellion will need a new car, they have a good engine plus money and Dome has a good chassis.
According to http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...-wec-notebook/ Rebellion will keep their Lola chassis and maybe add the Flybrid hybrid system.
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Old 27 Oct 2012, 16:41 (Ref:3158553)   #1255
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P2 might be a good idea for them in the engine department, the Judd is not going to cut it in P1 anymore + they would be able to produce and sell/lease P2 cars in numbers that would mean a return on their investment.
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Old 27 Oct 2012, 17:07 (Ref:3158560)   #1256
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Would be good to see a Dome P2 pop up in the AsLMS.
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Old 27 Oct 2012, 17:11 (Ref:3158562)   #1257
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I don't understand this Dome LMP2 story.

Nobody raced the Dome S102 between 2008 and 2012 because it was too expensive for LMP1 privateers.

Now suddenly Dome can make a version of the car that meets the LMP2 cost cap?
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Old 27 Oct 2012, 18:07 (Ref:3158583)   #1258
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I don't understand this Dome LMP2 story.

Nobody raced the Dome S102 between 2008 and 2012 because it was too expensive for LMP1 privateers.

Now suddenly Dome can make a version of the car that meets the LMP2 cost cap?
Was it the fact that it was too expensive?.
Wasn't it that Dome was too demanding to who raced it, and what they invested into it?

But if the 2014 LMP2 is based on the S102 aero research, you could argue that most of the expensive R&D is done, and they therefor can make it cheaper.
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Old 27 Oct 2012, 18:25 (Ref:3158590)   #1259
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Before the S102.5 project was announced, there was an article in RCE called "Unfulfilled promise" about the S102.
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'There are still some enquiries about this car,' revelas Hiroshi Yuchi, project manager at Dome. 'Mainly we talk to teams from Europe, but it is difficult to make it happend because the exchange rate is not good, and this is an expensive car anyway.'
source: http://content.yudu.com/Library/A1x0...sources/18.htm

The S102 was not designed for privateers. For instance, it has a carbon fibre bellhousing and very complex, difficult to debug electronics.
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Old 27 Oct 2012, 20:17 (Ref:3158619)   #1260
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The HPD isn't cheap either. You see 3 (2 wec 1 ALMS) teams running it though. Dagys has said it's 'not cheap' but didn't disclose the exact price. I can imagine it's a bit more than running a Lola. I wonder what it's price is like compared to the DOME.
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Old 27 Oct 2012, 20:22 (Ref:3158623)   #1261
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The December 2012 edition of RCE has an interview with John Judd: http://gb.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue...&prev=sub&p=25

Judd explains the problems of the Judd V8 in the Dome S102.5.
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In the race, they had an internal water leak from a crack in the cylinder block, and the car retired with that. It was just a local casting detail. You can't avoid high stresses in some areas, an the block was well within the safe limits that had been established, but it cracked. I guess if you look at fatigue test results, you get a big scatter when things fail, and with the mileage at the end of the race, it was not an issue.
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Old 27 Oct 2012, 20:34 (Ref:3158629)   #1262
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I also read the full article and my honest conclusion is "you reap what you sow"......in my experience of race and road powertrain engineering, the best engines are the ones where both chassis engine and gearbox teams work in harmony. from what i can see on multiple projects is judd are just delivering engines with little respect to all the fine integration detail. they have lost over 3/4 their lmp customers this really does say something.
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Old 4 Nov 2012, 15:25 (Ref:3162392)   #1263
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Minoru Hayashi launches his personal website.
You can check out his old project books about Japanese motorsports.
(mother chassis plan for SGT, Formula 4, Oriental GT project etc)
Although these are written in Japanese, you can understand an outline with an illustration.
http://hayashiminoru.com/minoru-hayashi/plan-proposal/
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Old 20 Nov 2012, 10:48 (Ref:3168991)   #1264
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Dome is doing the job offer of the engineer for the new project.
Deadline is December 14, 2012.
Check it out!
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Old 20 Nov 2012, 14:04 (Ref:3169055)   #1265
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Anyone up to the task?
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require the status of univ graduation of science and engineering

Job: R&D, Designing etc
a) R&D and designing of car. Data analysis etc
b) R&D of electrical component, system design, software design
c) Wind tunnel experiment and aerodynamic analysis operator
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I have a degree in Automotive Engineering... that I am putting to good (no) use in the field of journalism
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should be several ex Lola employees that could meet those requirements.
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Dome updates today's wind tunnel test photo (above) on the Facebook.
This is "a primary experiment for the next model."
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Old 23 Nov 2012, 14:02 (Ref:3170238)   #1270
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They need to speak and read Japanese though.
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Really? That's a shame.
Japanese language is one of the most difficult language in the world.
The language barrier weakens Japanese companies.
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Old 23 Nov 2012, 16:03 (Ref:3170265)   #1272
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Samurai-san, I am an English conversation school teacher. Most of my students are salarymen or college students, and all of them say that English proficiency is a must for new employees, or at least a promotion.

Hayashi-san of Dome possesses a decent degree of English proficiency (his articles in Racecar Engineering are OK), but I don't know much about the engineering staff. But being a Japanese based company it would be safe to say that at least 90-100% of the conversations there are in Japanese. There's also a cultural change a foreign worker faces when entering Japan. I think you know what I am talking about.

When in Rome, do as the Romans do. A gaijin has to adjust to Dome, not Dome adjust to the gaijin.
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Looks interesting that their model is focusing on the rear fender and the holes.
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Looks interesting that their model is focusing on the rear fender and the holes.
Notice they were keeping something covered up. Could it be the double fins a la Toyota?

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The Toyota 'fin' goes to the top of the rear wing endplate, the blurred photos look like it's an extension of the wheel arch that doesn't dip down following the wheel well's shape.
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