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Old 3 Feb 2020, 11:40 (Ref:3955448)   #346
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As I say, if you think it was an amazing race fair play to you, I did not, I was looking forward to it massively after enjoying the last few more than any other race.

This for me just felt a little less interesting and more lame.

I guess the track does not help, not that easy to pass, unlike Daytona when the GT Pro race I could have watched for hours on end on its own, yes it was still good, but other than the start in the dark and a few other bits I simply was not as engaged as usual.

Some people like hotlapping for hours, endless green running, I like it being mixed up, weather, lapping, the odd incident, strategy. And I must have missed what all you lot saw as I got none of that really.

It was just OK, move on tot he next one and let's place less emphasis on it next year.
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Old 3 Feb 2020, 13:32 (Ref:3955463)   #347
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I thought it was a really brilliant race - one of the best endurance races for many a year.
Well done to The Bentley Boys - really deserved the win after the setbacks during qualifying - just a shame that the No 8 didn't make it home.

Thought that the race had a bit of everything. Some great, close racing between some of the best drivers in GT racing, incidents, good green flag racing and drama for almost the whole 12 hours. Also good to see so many different manufacturers competitive and if anybody says 'it's only down to BOP' then I would say that if this is BOP racing THEN 'BRING IT ON'.
Also, well done to the organisers in changing the stint time allowed for each driver- meant that there was also a little more strategy involved.

Some scary incidents, not helped by some very shoddy marshalling - the driver of the Marc car that hit the Merc in qualifying after its shunt with the Lambo said that he had absolutely no warning - no yellow flags and no in car warning! The marshals at the incident just did not react to the initial incident and what was a big accident in the first place became a much more serious incident. There were also a couple of issues during the race that left a little bit to be desired.

Other than that, really enjoyed the whole event. Well done also to the team covering the event. Excellent camera work and brilliant informative commentary from Hindy and the team and some really good interviews. If only we could have them added to the European races too!
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Old 3 Feb 2020, 15:24 (Ref:3955486)   #348
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Talking of punctures, I did have a kip and missed the 8 Bentley spinning at the top of the mountain, which resulted in a SC and the car retiring? Or was the retirement unrelated to the puncture. Shame for that car after starting from the back of the grid due to pre-race dramas.
Mike, not sure if you got to see the spin in which Oliver Jarvis managed to do a 540 coming down from the Dipper towards Forest Elbow without hitting anything. Shown in this video, link below.

https://www.supercars.com/videos/bat...rs-safety-car/

The reason for its retirement was more that being at such a narrow part of the track with a destroyed left hand tyre he was unable to do a spin turn to get back facing the right way, thus needing a flat bed to rescue him.... by the time that was over and he had been returned to the pits he was some 6 laps down.... possibly with some drive train damage from the spin.
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Old 3 Feb 2020, 15:58 (Ref:3955495)   #349
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Mike, #8- The reason for its retirement was more that being at such a narrow part of the track with a destroyed left hand tyre he was unable to do a spin turn to get back facing the right way, thus needing a flat bed to rescue him.... by the time that was over and he had been returned to the pits he was some 6 laps down.... possibly with some drive train damage from the spin.
Thanks, that’s what I was missing! I saw a replay but only of the spin, not the issue it caused.....
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Old 3 Feb 2020, 16:07 (Ref:3955497)   #350
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Honestly the race itself was pretty good! I for one enjoyed it, especially the first couple of hours. Also good on Bentley to finally get a win, they really worked hard for that! We've had better ones and closer finishes, sure, but it wasn't half bad either.

The race is however starting to lack in variety a little. In my personal opinion the grid was just too small this year, I like the multi-class racing element and seeing the locals mix it in with the international teams. It's a shame cars like the Sherrins BMW aren't competing in this anymore, even though I can imagine it to be very stressful as an Am driver in a slower car to be in between this field of Pro hotheads. Maybe a good way forward would be to go Pro/Am only, and try to expand the GT4 class further
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Old 3 Feb 2020, 16:17 (Ref:3955499)   #351
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Strange how differently we all interpret the race, I love the chess game of endurance racing and as has already been said a further curved ball was thrown with the reduction of continuous driving stints from 180 to 150 mins which I thought well thought out. It was interesting to see how teams used this change, Porsche in particular electing for a strict regime of driver changes with just about every fuel stop in complete contradiction to last year. Extended periods of yellows do nothing for me all they do is create an artificial running order, I much prefer a clean green race there are enough imponderable scenarios to keep me interested.
I really though at one stage that we going to see a cinderella recovery from the Bentleys after such a dire start to the weekend but at least they got the deserved win, the sound of those thunderous machines and the Mercs hammering up the mountain is something else but having said that the unfortunate Nissans didn't sound half bad. I thought Whincup's move over Skyline? was pretty questionable; as at Le Mans the quicker cars need to make allowances in a multi class event.
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Old 4 Feb 2020, 00:13 (Ref:3955558)   #352
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I think I was lucky first few years, I remember the Viper, some great class racing and just some amazing driving lapping and putting seconds on rivals with brave moves.

Also, the gent element is a factor, more pros means less mistakes!

I do not watch racing for incident, but the edge of your seat factor was always there when lapping, you never knew what was going to happen, that seemed less of a factor this year.
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Other than that, really enjoyed the whole event. Well done also to the team covering the event. Excellent camera work and brilliant informative commentary from Hindy and the team and some really good interviews. If only we could have them added to the European races too!
Watching the super screens at the track I thought the coverage was great.Special praise for Chad Neylon and the Tech Centre which was great tactical analysis and makes the Eurosport Le Mans version(Neil and Tom) look like a joke.
Also Neil Crompton was good which shows what he can do when freed from the job of playing sidekick to the village idiot of the Supercar commentary team.At least we’re know now contact with Skaife’s vocabulary of cliches and bogan humour is not a permanent contagion.

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Old 4 Feb 2020, 12:19 (Ref:3955624)   #354
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Supercars TV did a great job of the event.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 03:58 (Ref:3957889)   #355
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I recorded the Foxtel broadcast, currently halfway through re-watching it. I missed the start, only commenced watching about 10am iirc, so it was good to watch the missed bit to catch up on what happened early on.

I thought it was a good race. Not necessarily an exciting one, but a good example of the genre - I know I was glued to the screen from the time I started watching. As someone above said, I follow it for the chess game, the strategic game and the undoing of strategy as the dice rolls. Colour me a tragic.

My only regret was that race day was so much cooler than Saturday. With that we could have had a race of attrition, and maybe a GT4 car on the podium ...

Speaking of Foxtel, the 4k broadcast was great. Might even be good enough to renew when my special deal ends in a month or so ... but not at full price.

And a final shoutout to the strategy analysis from the Tech Centre(?), really helped with understanding how the teams were playing the race.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 20:13 (Ref:3958064)   #356
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1. Don't agree with some comments about the TV production. It was too much "TV production" and not enough race. Too much of that touch screen graphic gimmick junk, too much on board cameras, too many interviews. Coverage was much simpler a couple years ago.

2. I don't think that 1 M4 and 1 AMG Gt4 brought much to the table. I would say lose the GT4 entirely from this point on. Invitational is cool in fact the MARCS should be allowed to be unleased a little more.

3. Great race otherwise other than the crashes. Glad the 2nd half was so clean and we got a legitimate endurance race strategy play out to the checkered flag.

4. SRO in general has way too much qualifying time and gimmicks. We don't need it. Do what IMSA does. Send them out for 15 minutes by class and have a go. In this case you could have 3 groups. 1) GT4/INV 2)GT3 Silver/ProAm 3)GT3 Pro.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 20:39 (Ref:3958067)   #357
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4. SRO in general has way too much qualifying time and gimmicks. We don't need it. Do what IMSA does. Send them out for 15 minutes by class and have a go. In this case you could have 3 groups. 1) GT4/INV 2)GT3 Silver/ProAm 3)GT3 Pro.
Whats your Problem with it? Just don't watch it
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