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Old 12 Nov 2005, 17:21 (Ref:1459002)   #1
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electric power steering from a corsa into a nova

can anyone help me i just got hold of an electric power steering colum from a corsa and am unsure of the wiring on the ecu, it has got a blue plug with 2 x 4mm cables red/brown is thise 2 x 12volts or 12v /earth , also there is a white plug with 6 x 0.5 mm cables out of it was this something to do with the airbag ,has anyone else fitted one any other mods i should know can anyone help , had to get something as after croft thought my arms where going to fall off after clenching the steering wheel so tight ,

oh the brakes where soooo much better ,
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Old 12 Nov 2005, 20:34 (Ref:1459117)   #2
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sorry to say this but, knowing just how involved the VW electric steering is and how its connected via the can bus network with the engine, transmission, airbag and braking ecu's, i'd say you got justabout zero chance of making this work.

tried fitting a slightly bigger steering wheel?
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Old 13 Nov 2005, 01:36 (Ref:1459303)   #3
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Sounds like a complete nightmare to me. Glad im not having to make that work. I would try and see if you can do something to make the non powersteering system work better for you. there are many saloon cars that dont run power steering. best of luck any way
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Old 13 Nov 2005, 08:14 (Ref:1459420)   #4
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how about adapting an astra power rack to fit the car, you could power the hydralics either off a conventional engine driven PAS pump or maybe an electric one as fitted to many of the small peugoets.

although personnally i would be looking to find ways to make steering easier without adding the huge amount of weight and complication needed to adapt power steering that foreign to the car.

is the steering just heavy, heavy to turn in, or is the problem an LSD pulling the car al over the shop?

reducing the caster angle will lighten the steering, whilst running exessive toe out will allso make it heavy
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Old 13 Nov 2005, 11:40 (Ref:1459533)   #5
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have done all that lsd is running at 40% but need to be able to respond quicker have found a site that got wiring daigram www.valvers.com just need to sort out speed sensing etc .
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Old 13 Nov 2005, 12:03 (Ref:1459548)   #6
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good luck, i suspect you may still want to reprogram the contolling ecu though so as to get some "feel" to the system
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Old 14 Nov 2005, 09:55 (Ref:1460191)   #7
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..knowing just how involved the VW electric steering is
Pedantic mode: That would be Vauxhall, not VW
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just go down the gym regular, build your arms up to turn the wheel lol
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Old 14 Nov 2005, 19:28 (Ref:1460598)   #9
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look like popeye as it is
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Old 14 Nov 2005, 20:45 (Ref:1460674)   #10
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'Scuse me for interruptin'. What motive power do you have in your Nova? Why for you need power steering? have you fitted 18" wide slicks, with mega castor angle?

I ran (still have it) a Nova for 14 years, with a 40% diff (tried a locked diff, bad news), OK on road tyres (195/50x15's), but tried slicks once, and found it easier to drive!

I'm not popeye, though I'm thinking about taking spinach with me when I get out with the Belmont next - that does require the arms of the great sailor! ek ek eg eg eg!!

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Old 14 Nov 2005, 22:38 (Ref:1460816)   #11
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2.0litre coupled to a f13 straight cut quaife box with 40% lsd , trouble with rallycross your always correcting and from one surface to another can become a bit of a hand full , plus i am a wimp , would go to gym but my gut always gets in the way of the exercise bike !!! , racing59 beep beep !!! popeye might of been a little lie ,
mate of mine reckons i wont need to wire up speed sensor !! so hopefully corsa rack might just work .
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Old 15 Nov 2005, 08:01 (Ref:1461072)   #12
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as chris y has already pointed out, this is a vauxhall, not a vw,

however i doubt the two are that different, one of the advantages electric power steering can give is that its fully mappable, and thus it makes it easy for the manufacturers to give nice light low speed steering with less assistance at high speed, i suspect the system although it may work wont work right without a speed signal. you will probvably get a default middle of the road steering assistance, or maybe full parking assistance all the time

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Old 15 Nov 2005, 12:53 (Ref:1461310)   #13
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Fit some nice lightweight steel wheels and some coad legal slicks - the 205 i use occassionally on trackdays is a dream to drive with this setup compared to previously with bigger and heavier alloys
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F13 with 2.0, not F16 or F20? Does that stay together?
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F13 with 2.0, not F16 or F20? Does that stay together?
its not faultered on me yet but am not pushing much bhp through it at the mo only 180bhp got a bit of fine tweeking to do on the engine maybe will get 200 bhp when the minor tweeks are done , was told the only real differance was a the main shaft in the box has one bearing on it and not 2 (not a mechanic so not sure if this is true), if i really went to town would have to f20 it (got one standard one just in case ) but i working on the theory when a wet track 400 bhp is just as good as 180 bhp !! when its dry well i have to look in my mirrors more !!!
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Few guys have done this.

go see, you might ask him?

http://www.nieminenracing.net

(ot: check out the videos about our races)
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Old 16 Nov 2005, 09:57 (Ref:1462102)   #17
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tzei, i had a look but alas my finnish is'nt much better than my russian, and i cant speak or read a word of that either.

tell me did my eyes decieve me but is'nt that a mk4 cortina estate on the right of the home page pic?
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The blue with white hood? Thats taunus mk2 sedan, i think (around here). (Cosw. 2.0 16v tbo).

Go "tekniikka" - roll a bit down : "Kauden 2004 alustamuutokset!" and there is one picture from engine bay where one can see this opel (..err vauxhall in UK?) corsa's unit.
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