F4000 announce their calendar with AMRS

storyline · 27 Oct 2005, 02:12 (Ref:1444678)

2006 Formula 4000 powered by Holden Racing Calendar:
Round 1: Calder Park Raceway, VIC (March 18-19)
Round 2: Wakefield Park, NSW (April 22-23)
Round 3: Winton Motor Raceway, VIC (May 6-7)
Round 4: Queensland Raceway, QLD (June 3-4)
Round 5: Adelaide International Raceway, SA (July 8-9)
Round 6: Winton Motor Raceway, VIC (August 26-27)
Round 7: Calder Park Raceway, VIC (October 28-29)
Round 8: Wakefield Park, NSW (November 25-26)

Raglanparade · 27 Oct 2005, 03:00 (Ref:1444690)

AIR ??

Is that place still operational ?

the last time i heard of a road event there was in the mid 1990's ?!?!!

storyline · 27 Oct 2005, 03:12 (Ref:1444692)

You obviously haven't kept up with the threads or news then - AIR is (supposedly) being resurfaced this Dec/Jan - Drags are already back up and running there and circuit racing is supposed to start early next year.

karimbo · 27 Oct 2005, 05:26 (Ref:1444728)

Will Rob Nguyen compete in it ?? What happened to him ? He was very fast but had almost no experience and disapeared ?

mixxer · 27 Oct 2005, 05:35 (Ref:1444734)

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Drags are already back up and running there

ANDRA Championship drag racing has not returned to AIR, FYI 2 top line cars where recently destroyed there, Pat Carbone's Top Doorslammer Camaro and the Rodrigez (sp) rotary powered import car from the US both of which were destroyed.
The recent headlines in the drag racing media were

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CARNAGE AT AIR
Drivers slam "B" grade tracks

Comments from Pat Carbone -

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We are only going to learn from this, we will not be running on B-Grade tracks in the future and hopefully others wont either. For the sake of a couple of grand and not going to test at WSID, we have lost a car

storyline · 27 Oct 2005, 06:03 (Ref:1444741)

mixxer - funny - I don't see anywhere I mentioned ANDRA (or any other organising body) in relation to the drags.

However - that aside - whether you, I or Batman consider it a B grade track - the fact is that drags HAVE started again at AIR.

D.R.T. · 27 Oct 2005, 06:27 (Ref:1444753)

Now Batman in the Batmobile would be a great addition to the drags.

Looking foward to the return of circuit racing at AIR in 06 with the AMRS.

mixxer · 27 Oct 2005, 08:15 (Ref:1444825)

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the fact is that drags HAVE started again at AIR

So please tell us what drags have started again ?

I took it that you were referring to the return of ANDRA Championship drag racing as AIR never stopped holding street drags and other types including import drags.

XW GT · 27 Oct 2005, 08:37 (Ref:1444842)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Now Batman in the Batmobile would be a great addition to the drags.

Looking foward to the return of circuit racing at AIR in 06 with the AMRS.

I have spoken to several of the SA circuit racing competitors, all are "hanging-out" for the circuit to fire up again. I don't really know the numbers, but SA has a huge circuit racing fraternity and they deserve a second track. Let's hope that the powers that be do fix up the complex at Virginia.

storyline · 27 Oct 2005, 08:59 (Ref:1444857)

mixxer - for starters - page 68 of this weeks MSN - headline 'More dates for AIR'

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...ANDRA has confirmed five more dates at the AIR venue

Dates given are Nov 27, Dec 10, Jan 21 (bikes), Feb 25/26 and Mar 18.

Razor · 27 Oct 2005, 10:59 (Ref:1444939)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Now Batman in the Batmobile would be a great addition to the drags.

Hello Batman, comisioner here, we need you down at the drag series post haste. Make sure you bring you batmobile but don't bring Robin

mixxer · 7 Nov 2005, 13:32 (Ref:1454170)

Sorry I took so long to reply Storyline Ive been away at the Muscle car masters and the A1 GP.
After I left for NSW I received these dates in my inbox, seems members are the last to find out about anything.

COMPETITION EVENTS
Sun, November 27th, 2005
Cruizin’ Magazine Nostalgia Drags

Sat, December 10th, 2005
Pro Stock Car / Bike Feature

Sun, January 21st, 2006
Nitro Funny Cars

Sat Feb 25th / Sun 26th, 2006
2006 Four, Six & Rotary Titles

Sat, March 18th, 2006
Supercharged Outlaws
From the email I got it seems that after the recent accidents they got their collective fingers out and made "extensive upgrades" which is all that the ANDRA people have wanted for years, why has it taken so long ?
Who knows but at least the track is now able to hold championship drag racing.

PVDA · 8 Nov 2005, 02:11 (Ref:1454881)

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Originally Posted by mixxer

From the email I got it seems that after the recent accidents they got their collective fingers out and made "extensive upgrades" which is all that the ANDRA people have wanted for years, why has it taken so long ?
Who knows but at least the track is now able to hold championship drag racing.

It's been discussed in here on several occasions but I believe there was a serious crash at an ANDRA sanctioned event at Calder several years ago and an insurance issue, or from what I believe a lack of coverage issue, led to legal action between Calder & ANDRA which has been resolved recently and with Calder & AIR sharing owners (Bob Jane) caused AIR to suffer.

I don't know what plans are in place for AIR but at Calder they are looking at moving the drag startline 50-60m further along the straight and going back to using the old Gloweave corner and then the "Staging lanes" as a part of the front straight to keep circuit racing off the slippery when wet drag strip.

mixxer · 8 Nov 2005, 04:15 (Ref:1454905)

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It's been discussed in here on several occasions but I believe there was a serious crash at an ANDRA sanctioned event at Calder several years ago and an insurance issue, or from what I believe a lack of coverage issue, led to legal action between Calder & ANDRA which has been resolved recently and with Calder & AIR sharing owners (Bob Jane) caused AIR to suffer.

Thanks PVDA but I'm fully aware of all that, Bosko was a good mate of mine.
Sadly he passed away in July of this year after him and his family were left in a shocking position due to the lack of insurance.

I was referring to the 2 recent accidents which from all accounts made those in charge at AIR realize that if they wanted championship drag racing back then they should bring it back with proper and correct safety standards, which is all that ANDRA and its members have wanted all along.

As for CP the issue to move the start line will keep the circuit racers happy but I believe the proposed walls (from memory tyre walls wrapped in conveyor matting) are still an issue for ANDRA. The concern is that those type of walls will make the car stick in turning a small accident into a big one unlike the concrete walls which allow the car to glance off with minimal damage, but thats up to them to resolve.

I'm just happy that the folks in SA that are interested in championship drag racing once again have the chance to see the fastest and quickest drag racing cars in action.

Anyway I suppose we should let this thread return to the topic at hand which was F4000's calendar for the upcoming season

Sultan · 8 Nov 2005, 04:28 (Ref:1454907)

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Originally Posted by storyline

2006 Formula 4000 powered by Holden Racing Calendar:
Round 1: Calder Park Raceway, VIC (March 18-19)
Round 2: Wakefield Park, NSW (April 22-23)
Round 3: Winton Motor Raceway, VIC (May 6-7)
Round 4: Queensland Raceway, QLD (June 3-4)
Round 5: Adelaide International Raceway, SA (July 8-9)
Round 6: Winton Motor Raceway, VIC (August 26-27)
Round 7: Calder Park Raceway, VIC (October 28-29)
Round 8: Wakefield Park, NSW (November 25-26)

Great to see some dates, the real question must be - how many cars??

Belly13 · 10 Nov 2005, 01:49 (Ref:1456866)

I have to agree with you there Sultan. They really are great cars to watch - so quick and precise into the corners. If they can get around 15 cars for the start of next season it will get a bit of support.

Sultan · 10 Nov 2005, 04:00 (Ref:1456912)

15 cars is one thing, 15 COMPETITIVE cars is another unfortunately...

**GTRMagic** · 28 Jan 2006, 04:46 (Ref:1510597)

I am curious as to whether something like this might fit in the back of a F4000 tub..... the engine noise would be glorious...

1200Datto27 · 28 Jan 2006, 05:46 (Ref:1510606)

Anything can be made to fit, it's just who much it will cost. I'd say that one of those engine is possibly of the same value as the whole of the current F4000 field.

**GTRMagic** · 28 Jan 2006, 05:59 (Ref:1510607)

Actually its on a website for $7,500US... (ex-Ferrari 348) which by my thinking is cheaper than the Holden motor....

Would sound nice, which the Holden motor doesnt

storyline · 28 Jan 2006, 06:20 (Ref:1510611)

And probably more reliable than the Holden motors. I notice that things have gone very quiet on the F4000 front though!

1200Datto27 · 28 Jan 2006, 08:25 (Ref:1510626)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Actually its on a website for $7,500US... (ex-Ferrari 348) which by my thinking is cheaper than the Holden motor....

Would sound nice, which the Holden motor doesnt

I still stand by my original comment

But you have hit the nail on the head, in that one of the reasons that F4K lost popularity was that they sounded like they where powered by a rasp. If they had a nicer sounding engine in the back of them, more people may have been interested in watching them.

hoffy · 28 Jan 2006, 11:37 (Ref:1510687)

Wonder how a 5 litre motor in the back would go.....

storyline · 28 Jan 2006, 11:57 (Ref:1510697)

V8SA wouldn't allow it - after all, didn't they invent 5 litre racing?

Rombles1 · 28 Jan 2006, 12:30 (Ref:1510708)

Maybe they should go to the 6L being used in the road cars now?

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