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View Poll Results: Who will beat their team mate in 2018?
Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton 29 96.67%
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas 1 3.33%
Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel 29 96.67%
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen 1 3.33%
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo 8 26.67%
Red Bull: Max Verstappen 22 73.33%
Force India: Sergio Perez 7 23.33%
Force India: Esteban Ocon 23 76.67%
Williams: Lance Stroll 14 46.67%
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin 16 53.33%
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg 18 60.00%
Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr 12 40.00%
Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly 17 56.67%
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley 13 43.33%
Haas: Romain Grosjean 22 73.33%
Haas: Kevin Magnussen 8 26.67%
McLaren: Fernando Alonso 28 93.33%
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne 2 6.67%
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson 7 23.33%
Sauber: Charles Leclerc 23 76.67%
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Old 7 Oct 2018, 01:30 (Ref:3855043)   #241
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Team-mate battle results for qualifying after round seventeen (Japan).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 11
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 6

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 13
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 4

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 14
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 3

Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 9
Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 8

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 10
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 7

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 13
Force India: Sergio Perez - 4

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 17
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 0

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 13
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 4

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 14
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 3

Williams: Lance Stroll - 6
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 11






80th pole for Hamilton. Great lap in the slippery conditions. Bottas kept him honest though.

Out of the Ferrari duo, one did pretty good considering the choices made by the team, one turned into jelly once again when water was added.

Red Bull, Max has had a good run of late, while his team-mate just cannot catch a break. Cannot wait for Ricciardo to leave Red Bull personally. His stocks have dropped since he announced he was going to Renault.

At Renault, Hulkenberg in the wall while Sainz managed to set a Q2 time.

Grosjean smashed his team-mate. P5 vs P12. That's 10 Q3 appearances in a row for RG. His on a good run at the moment.

The Force India drivers pretty even. Ocon in front of Perez.

Alonso vs Vandoorne... no contest really. That's 22 in a row for Alonso against Vandoorne.

Hartley and Gasly did very well. Hartley was lied to by his race engineer; it worked, and Hartley ended up in front of Gasly. Nice tactic that one.

Leclerc once again shows why Ericsson is a wasted F1 seat.

Out of the Williams duo, Stroll managed to make it to Q2. Sirotkin still well ahead in the qualifying battle though.



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Team-mate battle results for the race after round seventeen (Japan).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 13 (DNF's: Austria)
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 3 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Austria)

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 10 (DNF's: Germany)
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 7 (DNF's: Bahrain, Spain, Belgium)

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 10 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Britain, Hungary)
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Austria, Germany, Belgium, Italy)

Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 9 (DNF's: Britain)
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 8 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, Austria, Belgium, Japan)

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 9 (DNF's: Australia, Japan)
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Spain, Britain)

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 9 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, France, Singapore)
Force India: Sergio Perez - 7 (DNF's: France)

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 11 (DNF's: Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy)
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 6 (DNF's: Spain, Austria, Hungary)

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 11 (DNF's: Australia, Spain, France, Russia)
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 5 (DNF's: China, Monaco, Canada, Austria, Britain, Italy, Russia)

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 9 (DNF's: Monaco, Britain, Hungary, Belgium, Japan)
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Britain)

Williams: Lance Stroll - 9 (DNF's: Canada, France, Germany)
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Germany)




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Team-mate battle results for qualifying after round eighteen (USA).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 12
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 6

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 14
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 4

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 14
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 4

Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 10
Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 8

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 10
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 8

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 14
Force India: Sergio Perez - 4

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 18
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 0

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 14
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 4

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 15
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 3

Williams: Lance Stroll - 6
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 12





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Team-mate battle results for the race after round eighteen (USA).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 14 (DNF's: Austria)
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 3 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Austria)

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 10 (DNF's: Germany)
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 7 (DNF's: Bahrain, Spain, Belgium)

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 11 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Britain, Hungary)
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Austria, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA)

Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 9 (DNF's: Britain)
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 9 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, Austria, Belgium, Japan)

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 10 (DNF's: Australia, Japan)
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Spain, Britain, USA)

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 10 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, France, Singapore)
Force India: Sergio Perez - 7 (DNF's: France)

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 11 (DNF's: Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA)
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 7 (DNF's: Spain, Austria, Hungary)

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 11 (DNF's: Australia, Spain, France, Russia)
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 6 (DNF's: China, Monaco, Canada, Austria, Britain, Italy, Russia)

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 9 (DNF's: Monaco, Britain, Hungary, Belgium, Japan, USA)
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Britain)

Williams: Lance Stroll - 9 (DNF's: Canada, France, Germany)
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Germany)




With three rounds left this season, seems like it will be the Williams drivers to have the closest team-mate battle of 2018. With 3 DNF's each, Stroll is ahead by just one win.


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I hear ya! The numbers win in the end though. Just like the numbers say Michael Schumacher is the best F1 driver of all time. But there's a few F1 fans out there who don't believe that to be the case at all.




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Well if we're going on numbers alone, that means Hamilton will soon become the undisputed best driver on the current grid, with Vettel second.

Hamilton will move to a clear 3rd in the all-time list, leaving Vettel as the joint-4th best F1 driver of all time - but I guess he's still overrated?
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Team-mate battle results for the race after round eighteen (USA).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 14 (DNF's: Austria)
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 3 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Austria)

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 10 (DNF's: Germany)
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 7 (DNF's: Bahrain, Spain, Belgium)

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 11 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Britain, Hungary)
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Austria, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA)

Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 9 (DNF's: Britain)
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 9 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, Austria, Belgium, Japan)

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 10 (DNF's: Australia, Japan)
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Spain, Britain, USA)

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 10 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, France, Singapore)
Force India: Sergio Perez - 7 (DNF's: France)

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 11 (DNF's: Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA)
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 7 (DNF's: Spain, Austria, Hungary)

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 11 (DNF's: Australia, Spain, France, Russia)
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 6 (DNF's: China, Monaco, Canada, Austria, Britain, Italy, Russia)

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 9 (DNF's: Monaco, Britain, Hungary, Belgium, Japan, USA)
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Britain)

Williams: Lance Stroll - 9 (DNF's: Canada, France, Germany)
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Germany)




With three rounds left this season, seems like it will be the Williams drivers to have the closest team-mate battle of 2018. With 3 DNF's each, Stroll is ahead by just one win.


Ferraris score is wrong. There hasn't been a race where they have both retired, yet there scores only add up to 17 instead of 18
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I hear ya! The numbers win in the end though. Just like the numbers say Michael Schumacher is the best F1 driver of all time. But there's a few F1 fans out there who don't believe that to be the case at all.
not that i entirely disagree but there is more to the 'greatest of all time' then just numbers imo.
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I hear ya! The numbers win in the end though. Just like the numbers say Michael Schumacher is the best F1 driver of all time. But there's a few F1 fans out there who don't believe that to be the case at all.
More than just a few.
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Ferraris score is wrong. There hasn't been a race where they have both retired, yet there scores only add up to 17 instead of 18
Good spot S griffin. I missed KR's win!!!!
Double checked, and all is correct as of list below.

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Team-mate battle results for the race after round eighteen (USA).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 14 (DNF's: Austria)
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 3 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Austria)

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 10 (DNF's: Germany)
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 8 (DNF's: Bahrain, Spain, Belgium)

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 11 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Britain, Hungary)
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Austria, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA)

Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 9 (DNF's: Britain)
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 9 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, Austria, Belgium, Japan)

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 10 (DNF's: Australia, Japan)
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Spain, Britain, USA)

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 10 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, France, Singapore)
Force India: Sergio Perez - 7 (DNF's: France)

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 11 (DNF's: Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA)
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 7 (DNF's: Spain, Austria, Hungary)

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 11 (DNF's: Australia, Spain, France, Russia)
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 6 (DNF's: China, Monaco, Canada, Austria, Britain, Italy, Russia)

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 9 (DNF's: Monaco, Britain, Hungary, Belgium, Japan, USA)
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Britain)

Williams: Lance Stroll - 9 (DNF's: Canada, France, Germany)
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Germany)





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Post USA driver rankings.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...c4ykIUcMK.html

Hamilton rated as number one. Vettel is not even rated in the top ten.






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Team-mate battle results for qualifying after round nineteen (Mexico).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 13
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 6

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 15
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 4

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 14
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5

Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 11
Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 8

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 10
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 9

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 15
Force India: Sergio Perez - 4

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 19
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 0

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 14
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 5

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 16
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 3

Williams: Lance Stroll - 7
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 12





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Team-mate battle results for the race after round nineteen (Mexico).


Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton - 15 (DNF's: Austria)
Mercedes: Valtteri Bottas - 3 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Austria)

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel - 11 (DNF's: Germany)
Ferrari: Kimi Raikkonen - 8 (DNF's: Bahrain, Spain, Belgium)

Red Bull: Max Verstappen - 12 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Britain, Hungary)
Red Bull: Daniel Ricciardo - 5 (DNF's: Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Austria, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA, Mexico)

Renault: Carlos Sainz Jnr - 9 (DNF's: Britain, Mexico)
Renault: Nico Hulkenberg - 10 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, Austria, Belgium, Japan)

Haas: Kevin Magnussen - 11 (DNF's: Australia, Japan)
Haas: Romain Grosjean - 7 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Spain, Britain, USA)

Force India: Esteban Ocon - 11 (DNF's: Azerbaijan, Spain, France, Singapore)
Force India: Sergio Perez - 7 (DNF's: France, Mexico)

McLaren: Fernando Alonso - 11 (DNF's: Monaco, Canada, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA, Mexico)
McLaren: Stoffel Vandoorne - 8 (DNF's: Spain, Austria, Hungary)

Toro Rosso: Pierre Gasly - 12 (DNF's: Australia, Spain, France, Russia)
Toro Rosso: Brendon Hartley - 6 (DNF's: China, Monaco, Canada, Austria, Britain, Italy, Russia)

Sauber: Charles Leclerc - 10 (DNF's: Monaco, Britain, Hungary, Belgium, Japan, USA)
Sauber: Marcus Ericsson - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Britain)

Williams: Lance Stroll - 10 (DNF's: Canada, France, Germany)
Williams: Sergey Sirotkin - 8 (DNF's: Australia, Azerbaijan, Germany)





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A new number one driver in the post Mexico GP rankings.

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