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Old 28 Nov 2012, 01:33 (Ref:3172404)   #241
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Allen Karlberg was definitely involved in that period but I'm afraid I can't explain that plate. Did he tell you where he got it from?
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Old 28 Nov 2012, 01:52 (Ref:3172407)   #242
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I'll ask him tomorrow. He told me he was involved with this chassis from the time it was built so who knows.
It's definitely fast as it turns a bit less than a second off what a lot newer (1999 Mygale) chassis does at a nearby track. Al was behind the wheel at the time and he really seems to be a great driver so that doesn't hurt.
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Old 4 Dec 2012, 01:37 (Ref:3174825)   #243
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Al's word's
"I think the guy that swept the floor made the number plates."
He said there was no rhyme or reason to their numbering system.
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Old 4 Dec 2012, 19:52 (Ref:3175104)   #244
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I have a couple of JM 14 FF2000. That is not!!! a JM 14.All the 14's had rocker rear suspension. The front chassis around cockpit area is different as well.Interesting.. PM me if you would like some photo's of my cars.
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Old 5 Dec 2012, 02:33 (Ref:3175227)   #245
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It was described to me by Al as "...the proto-type for the chassis series... bankrolled by a rich Swedish playboy..." He may have said Swiss, my notes aren't in front of me just now.
He also said it had been modified through the years and totaly rebuilt in the early 90's.
He's hunting up the old log books for us now.
I can take better, more detailed pictures of the bare chassis later on this winter after the clutter has settled. We moved into this new shop just a few months ago and I'm still looking for things in misc. boxes.
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Old 22 Dec 2012, 11:12 (Ref:3181070)   #246
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I think only 1 ever raced in England, late '85, an American called Bobby Carville. Maybe he took it back to the State with him?
You are correct with the above that the car was driven by Bobby Carville, after he left the car stayed with Argo and the drive was taken up by Jo Lindstrum
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Old 30 Dec 2012, 05:35 (Ref:3182872)   #247
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Argo JM4-31

All,

For what it is worth, I have an Argo JM4-31 SV that I purchased from Al Karlberg a few years ago. It has been sitting in a back corner of my shop for a while, but we have begun the effort to restore it. If anyone knows the history, much appreciated.

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Old 31 Dec 2012, 01:25 (Ref:3183158)   #248
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JM14, at Oulton Park, 9th April, 2005. Entered by Airspec UK, driven by Eddie Wilkins:-

Is it possible for you to send us a higher resolution picture for comparison purposes? Thanks.
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Old 31 Dec 2012, 09:18 (Ref:3183232)   #249
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Lawrence, if I can find it, I certainly will. Give me a few days, but in the meantime PM your email address to me.
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Old 31 Dec 2012, 18:32 (Ref:3183358)   #250
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Hi Lawrance,very sorry I have not sent you the photo's of my JM14. We have moved workshop and been very busy. I will do it tomorrow. BTW John Eddie;s car was a JM14b.This is very much a different car to the early 14..Happy New Year to all my Argo freinds.
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Old 22 Apr 2016, 17:07 (Ref:3635699)   #251
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Wow, nothing for 3+ years...this is a going thread!
We're still racing the Argo JM17 and have purchased another chassis from Butch Dennison.
Interestingly it has the same SCCA roll bar stamp as our other chassis...
I think it boils down to the fact that the "spare" chassis was written off at a race in Portland, OR., this chassis appeared from somewhere and the 2 were made into what is our racer now.
Butch is a pretty good fabricator and they did a great job building this chassis. Along the way it seems that they took a little artistic license and modified a few things to make it a better handling car.
I have made contact with a few ex-JM17 racers over the last few years and have found out some good info.
One person was Dan Wall, who won the Kansas Region Divisional Championship in '89. ( I can't remember if I talked to Dan himself or a person that knew him well, the K region historian Sharlene Smith)
I also spoke with another gentleman (name escapes me) that mentioned that they raced a JM17 and it took they 2 years to get it setup. After they won the championship he test-drove a Swift DB3 and immediately was 2 seconds faster than the Argo had ever been. This with mere minutes in the seat.
Some in-car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r_11TvHSo0
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Old 17 Nov 2016, 07:17 (Ref:3688793)   #252
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Argo JM21

I am interested in JM21 history..

1991 drivers:
- Augsburger, Kaufmann, Traversa

1992 drivers:
- Günther Köbele, Fritz Köbele, M. Köbele, Hunkeler,

1993 drivers:
- Günther Köbele, Fritz Köbele, M. Köbele, Hunkeler, Louis Bärtsch, Lompech, Ehrat, Binder (JM21-139-C3), Roth

1994 drivers:
- Ehrat, Binder (JM21-139-C3), Roth, Hahn (JM21-136), Dorffner, Martin Koehlmeier (chassis called "PRC 883-052")

1995 drivers:
- Fredy Kueng (JM21-134-C3, Traversa Racing), Hahn (JM21-136, Traversa Racing), Martin Koehlmeier (chassis called "PRC 883-052"), Bockhorn

etc.. any more information?
later:

JM21-133-C3 => 1998 Gerhard Ludwig => Roland Mittländer = >Mitch Mittländer => Theodor Billy Erhard (+Walter Novotny)

JM21-134-C3 =>Fredy Kueng

JM21-135? =>Bruno Kueng

JM21-136 = >Hahn

JM21-137 ????

JM21-138-C3 => 1996 Forresti => 2001 Wolfgang Dietmann

JM21-139-C3 => 1993 Josef Binder
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