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10 Sep 2003, 08:23 (Ref:713866) | #1 | ||
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All THREE finishing all 3 races?
Just wondering what your opinions are on the chances are that all three drivers contending for the championship will finish the three remaining races and also in a high points scoring position!?
I believe atleast one of them is going to have a DNF... a case of one mistake and you are out!? |
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10 Sep 2003, 08:33 (Ref:713871) | #2 | |
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yes , id be surprised if they all finished all the races ...but stranger things have happened ..
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10 Sep 2003, 09:01 (Ref:713900) | #3 | ||
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GO RALF
Actually, as I have posted elsewhere, there are other drivers who can have an influence on teh points scored by the three top guys. Like both Renault drivers, Mark Webber, and DC, Rubens and of course the MAN of the moment: Ralf. A driver can only help his team mate if certain situations arise - if Rubens was running second and SchM was running fifth half a minute behind, there is not a helluva lot Rubens can do to help his team mate. Last edited by Valve Bounce; 10 Sep 2003 at 09:06. |
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Ralf the man of the moment? Are you insane? Two crashes and a spin in the last 6 weeks doesn't strike me as good form. The best run of recent form as been from Montoya, but of course Alonso has recived a lot of deserved hype aftere his Hungarian win.
Defiantely, a single mistake (from driver, manufacturer or raceday team) could blow the entire thing, and it has to be said that Michael's had the best luck with those. He's ahead, but his lead has been reduced at almost every race sicne Canada, and I doubt he'll be leading after Monza, unless the tyres change things. |
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GO RALF
Let's face it - Ralf's entire drive at Hungary was insane. But yeah!! I get that way from bouncing |
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10 Sep 2003, 09:24 (Ref:713920) | #6 | ||
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There is a strong possibility of all three drivers finishing, but I wouldn't put it past TGF to try some unsportsmanlike behaviour. He's done it before, constantly, he'll continue to do so....
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Lets hope all three do finish, but somehow I doubt it.
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Of the three, Raikkonen is the most prone to a mistake under pressure, going on previous hsitory this season. JPM is the most likely to do something spectacular and get away with it and TGF will most likely score consistently and stay out of trouble.
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10 Sep 2003, 11:22 (Ref:713996) | #9 | ||
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This year. Points scoring finishes
Michael 12/13 Montoya 10/13 Kimi 10/13 Using this, roughly, Michael has a 23% chance and Montoya and Kimi have a 69% chance of not finishing at least one race. There could well be 1 or 2 retirements out of these three in the last few races. There is a 7% chance that all of them will score in every race. There is a 10% chance that all will suffer a non scoring finish (to allow Ralf back in). However Ralf (11/13) has a 30% chance of not scoring in one round too. So there is a 7% chance that each of the top three fails to score in a round and Ralf scores in each round. The chances of DC scoring in each round and none of the top three scoring in any rounds are about 2 millionth of a %. Last edited by Adam43; 10 Sep 2003 at 11:27. |
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10 Sep 2003, 11:25 (Ref:713999) | #10 | ||
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The key to the remaining races is going to be qualifying, you don't want to start too many places behind the other contenders. A mistake on one of the qualifying laps could be the difference between being world champion & finishing third.
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What is Monza like for overtaking opportunities?
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10 Sep 2003, 11:48 (Ref:714010) | #12 | |
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So so, not very spectacular.
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Well, at least 2 prime overtaking areas, and another 2-3 where it is possible... should be a good race.
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Haven't seen much overtaking last year, must be because i was sleeping or something...
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I think Ralf is the in the box seat and could take alot of points in the coming race's MS,Kimmi,jpm will be falling over themself's to out place each other without winning if needed which could really opening doors for the likes of DC who has had strong race's pretty much all year (but bad quail's) Alonso is coming home strong and usa and japan could lead to wins and Mark could all so take much needed points away from the three wise men (except Monza ).
but the Tyre issue is I think long from over and will be a huge factor . But I can see all drivers (MS Kimmi,jpm) finishing the race's with Monza being the possibly car breaker it always has been . What a end to the season |
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Car wise if we are talking relibality then TGF is out and if Montoya can keep facing in the right direction with his Williams and a good pair of Michelins, as they still seem to be, then it is his with KR second. (Michelins faster... http://www.planet-f1.com/Home/story_12918.shtml )
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He has more points finishes than the other contenders so far this year. And when was the last time he broke down? That means he and is car seem more reliable and less likely to fail to score. Possibly on shear pace he is not at the top at the moment, but reliabilty wise his car is the one to have. |
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well, reading the article that Phoenix1 pointed us to, it doesn't seem all doom and gloom for the Michelin boys....
"I have to say a big thank-you to the FIA," announced Toyota’s Olivier Panis. "Michelin had to do what it had to do [in ensuring conformity] and it has worked out so well for us as [in testing] we were quicker on the new construction." It was a view shared by Renault’s Technical Director Mike Gascoyne. "In testing the new-shaped tyre we actually noticed a small performance advantage over its predecessor," he said. Loved this bit..... P-F1 (planet-F1) may have scoffed when Ross Brawn claimed that Ferrari had Michelin’s best interests in mind when they complained to the FIA, but we now realise we were wrong to do so. Sorry Ross. When exactly did Ross Brawn have Michelins best interests in mind? |
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In recent years, I've been surprised by the lack of overtaking at Monza. It has long straights into slow corners so you'd think it would be good. However a couple of things work against it. Most of the long straights are just after fast corners, so the following cars have just lost out due to the 'dirty' air. Also I'm not sure the design of the chicances helps that much either.
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