BTCC weight revisions

**touringlegend** · 22 Apr 2005, 23:09 (Ref:1284811)

TOCA have adjusted the equality weight's in the series down 40kg for the Super 2000 spec cars, which are the SEAT Toledo's and HPI/FR Lexus IS200.

The Seat is now 1100kg while the Lexus is 1130kg (+30kg for RWD).

This compares to 1150kg base weight for the BTC Touring Spec cars, and is bound to even the field up some more.

Anyone for Neal - Plato - Muller - Collard fighting for race wins at Thruxton then!

Hazard · 22 Apr 2005, 23:31 (Ref:1284816)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

TOCA have adjusted the equality weight's in the series down 40kg for the Super 2000 spec cars, which are the SEAT Toledo's and HPI/FR Lexus IS200.

The Seat is now 1100kg while the Lexus is 1130kg (+30kg for RWD).

This compares to 1150kg base weight for the BTC Touring Spec cars, and is bound to even the field up some more.

Anyone for Neal - Plato - Muller - Collard fighting for race wins at Thruxton then!

Tssk tssk, that Gow gives in to Plato's whining a lot doesn't he?

I thought the Lexus was BTC-spec?

CallumC · 23 Apr 2005, 00:56 (Ref:1284844)

Not this lexus, the last one that was developed, at the start of the BTC regs was but only lasted a season or two, this new one is built to S2000

Andy Metcalf · 23 Apr 2005, 13:09 (Ref:1285063)

With the variety of circuits which the BTCC visit, the task of getting a balance between BTCC spec and S2000 spec was never going to be easy. I am looking forward to seeing the difference it will make to the Lexus more than the SEAT.

Cosworth_RS · 23 Apr 2005, 17:49 (Ref:1285238)

If the weight of the SEAT is revised to 1100kg, does this include the 30kg extra it carries for using a sequential gearbox? or is it racing at 1130kg?

Im sure I read this in the sporting regaulations on the TOCA website but it doesnt appear clear to me. Does anyone know?

Alfa Fan · 23 Apr 2005, 17:51 (Ref:1285239)

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Originally Posted by btccnews

I am looking forward to seeing the difference it will make to the Lexus more than the SEAT.

I think its unlikely the Lexus will even be at the old weight level yet. Privately built new cars tend to be a bit heavy to start of with.

redshoes · 23 Apr 2005, 19:19 (Ref:1285287)

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Originally Posted by Cosworth_RS

If the weight of the SEAT is revised to 1100kg, does this include the 30kg extra it carries for using a sequential gearbox? or is it racing at 1130kg?

Im sure I read this in the sporting regaulations on the TOCA website but it doesnt appear clear to me. Does anyone know?

I'm not sure the sporting regs on the TOCA site are right since it seems to imply the base weight is 1140/1170kg plus a further 30kg for sequential gearbox.

The limits set by the FIA (which is what TOCA used to start the season)
FWD / H-pattern gearbox = 1110kg
FWD / sequential gearbox = 1140kg
RWD / H-pattern gearbox = 1140kg
RWD / sequential gearbox = 1170kg

Now subtract 40kg for TOCA's latest adjustment

maximus · 23 Apr 2005, 20:02 (Ref:1285309)

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Originally Posted by Hazard

Tssk tssk, that Gow gives in to Plato's whining a lot doesn't he?

I thought the Lexus was BTC-spec?

lol, but I have to say after watching him at Old Hairpin, that car looked like a barge compared to the other cars round there. Something needed to be done.

BootsOntheSide · 23 Apr 2005, 21:05 (Ref:1285326)

Ideally this will help GA get sponsorship to run an Alfa or 2, but I guess that's a forlorn hope now. SEAT seemed to need a weight benefit at Brands, but isn't that track more weight-dependent than most?

Cosworth_RS · 24 Apr 2005, 10:38 (Ref:1285580)

Thanks for clearing that point up Redshoes.

Alfa Fan · 24 Apr 2005, 18:32 (Ref:1286061)

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Originally Posted by BootsOntheSide

Ideally this will help GA get sponsorship to run an Alfa or 2, but I guess that's a forlorn hope now. SEAT seemed to need a weight benefit at Brands, but isn't that track more weight-dependent than most?

GA are confirmed for Thruxton. Jamie Spence will drive, there's even a story about it on the official website.

**Adam43** · 24 Apr 2005, 20:22 (Ref:1286219)

The idea is that the top BTCC car and the top WTCC car should have the same lap time. Seat were off the pace in Monza and Donington, so perhaps they were the right limits. However Plato cites testing were Seat were on the pace with the other WTCC cars. There has been more testing (at different venues) rather than races (only at oddball Monza), but one situation is competetive and one not.

Whatever if Seat just win in Thruxton the arguement will be that it is only the weight limit. That will always be the case when the limits are arbitarily decided for two sets of regs.

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