10 x RT4s at Eastern Creek A1GP

[cavvy]

Where did they all come from.

With Messrs Miller & Fellowes to the fore, I look forward to finding out.

[Pete Brennan]

There were actually 13 RT4's,a total field of 29 Atlantic/Euro F2.Included were 2 Euro F2 Chevrons.I had the priveledge of being part of this great field in my 88 RT4.What it found astonishing was that the RT4's were only 2.5 secs slower than a current Euro F3 car,400cc smaller and on carburettors and 20 years older.The event overall was good to be part of,we do not get to run at these International meets,and everyone really enjoyed the atmosphere. If i can work out how to post a picture i will do so.

[Dan Rear]

Chaps, that sounds like a brilliant field. Any more info/pics on the event, car histories etc. There's a few people on here who'd be very interested in this I reckon.

[David McKinney]

Very true!

[Bryan Miller]

Actually Col Haste and I ended up with 34 cars on the entry list , with 33 to run , we lost a few with not finished in time , and in one case didn't clear customs in time , so 29 out for the first practice.
Will list all later when time allows.

Bryan.

[Andrew Fellowes]

Schenks taking time out from being International Race Director for the A1GP to get back in BT36-1

[Andrew Fellowes]

The lower half of the grid!!!

[Andrew Fellowes]

Photo Credit to John Gale

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by Bryan Miller

Actually Col Haste and I ended up with 34 cars on the entry list , with 33 to run , we lost a few with not finished in time , and in one case didn't clear customs in time , so 29 out for the first practice.
Will list all later when time allows.

Bryan.

Well done guys - interested where they all came from & how many have raced in Aus before, particularly in AGP.

[Andrew Fellowes]

This is the best photo easily by a country mile, Thanks Pete,

(who has aged 5 years in the last 5 minutes, now hates computers and has taken to drink.....?)

[Andrew Fellowes]

Another great shot;



Thanks Pete,

(who also dislikes Smart Alex's with instructions that mean Diddly Squat)

[Andrew Fellowes]

Hi cavvy, dont know much on the RT4's so perhaps Bryan or Pete can help, but there are some great histories to be heard.

Pretty Please?

& Pete, thanks for the great photos, I'll do the other one later, Cheers Andrew

[MCWB]

Here are some of the photos I took of the Historics at the A1GP weekend, hope you enjoy them! If you'd like more of any particular car (e.g. one you were driving/preparing etc) please just ask, I've got a heap more here yet to be processed.

Click thumbnails to enlarge (then click on the picture in the page that pops up to enlarge it further):













I must say I absolutely loved watching these cars strut their stuff, it was great to experience what things were like before my time. Unfortunately I can't make the next meeting, otherwise I'd go for sure!

[Andrew Fellowes]

MCWB those are great photos,

Sorry I apologise for posting so many photos, but I had to add this last one, thanks Col, After all with all those Ralts there who else could you have but Mr Ron 'Tighten the nut not the bolt' Tauranac?

[Bryan Miller]

O.K.

Pete Brennan will handle the RT4s I will do the rest .

Brabham BT 36-1 , Andrew Fellowes./ Roger Ealand.
Brabham BT36-2 , Andrew/ Roger.
Brabham BT35-8 , Me , Ex Dave Morgan and A.G.P 1976 ,Sandown.
Col Haste , thats him in the Grey shirt , Lola T360/ AU1
Howard Blight , March 75B-8 , ex Giles V. White car , Howard sitting on rear tyre .
Kevin Miller , my old Modus M3 , M1-022-FA .
Dr. Michael Henderson March 722-5 , ex Niki Lauda.
John Gale , Chevron B29 , 29-75-30. ??
Doug Macarthur , Ralt RT1 , didn't get eng together in time.
Peter Whelan , Chevron B29 , B29-75-05, ex Brian Redman.
Chris Farrell , Chevron B35 ex Opert Racing, Keke Rosberg.
Peter Mohr , Chevron B34 .ex Albert Poon / Kev. Bartlett .
Jamie Larner , Chevron B42.
Doug Anderson , Elfin 623 , converted in period to BDD eng.
Harry Hickling ,Chevron B20 ex Steve Millen S.E.Asia.didn't make it , incorrect English fuel bags supplied.
Robert Foster , March 73B ex Grant Swartz , Flying Tigers S.E.Asia
Peter Landan , Ralt RT1 , ex Bob Johns. Went very well .
Dean Tighe , Maurer MM83 , didn't get there after flying car in from Switzerland , quaranteen guys stopped him dead in his tracks.
Peter Warren, March 80A ex N.Z. Series.

Bryan.

[Bryan Miller]

Peter Mohr is getting the trophy from Ron, we made him our roving tech consultant for the weekend, and a lot of people used his invaluable advise .

Me , it turns out we blew a head gasket on a brand new engine.

Bryan.

[Pete Brennan]

The Ralt RT4's at the A1 GP

Ian Ross 1981 Nelson Piquet 81 AGP Calder
Geoff Calvert 1981 Jacques Laffite AGP Calder
Ray Hanger 1981
Vince Holland 1982 Graham Lawrence NZ
Peter Addison/Michael Henderson 1982 ex USA
Chris Farrell 1982 ex USA
Richard Carter 1983/86 ex USA
Vivian King 1986 Ted Prappas Atlantic Championship(west coast)
Les Wright 1986 Scott Goodyear Atlantic Championship(east coast)
Tim Davies 1986(did not start)
Ty Hanger 1986 ex USA
Rob Poynton 1986 ex USA
Sean Whelan 1987
Stephen Borness 1987 Jon Beekhius USA
Me 1987/88 Scott Harrington ex USA

We also have another 25 RT4's here with good histories that were not at the A1

Pete

[cavvy]

Thanks Pete,
25 x RT4s in garages ?

Lets hope you guys (& Bryan, Andrew et al) see the light of day down here in Vic soon.

[Chris Townsend]

Pete

Do you have chass nos for the two 1982 ex USA cars?

That makes 38 RT4s in Australia. You could run qualifying heats!

Chris

[Pete Brennan]

Chris

The 2 USA cars,Farrell has no ID# that i know of,will try to get hold of him to clarrify.The other, RT4-311 Michael Henderson.
Other 82's if you are interested.
John Clegg New Zealand RT4-286
Graham Mein Australia RT-4 292 ex Dan Marvin
Vince Holland RT4-313 Australia ex Lawrence
Pete Brennan RT4-331 Australia ex Alan Jones/Allison/Oxton
RT4-344 is here somewhere,but was only a slider,needs work

Pete

[Chris Townsend]

Pete

311 was the car of Canadian driver Brian Mcloughlin. Very lightly raced in period [at least by McLoughlin] who sold the car in 83 after one pro race and a few Canadian Clubs... I lose it after that. Does Michael Henderson have any back history into the mid 80s? [All the RT4s used in the USA in 84, bar one, are 81-83 build so second-hand history is essential]
If Farrell has tub/fuel cell nos can probably identify, as I recently did with Mark Moore's car in the USA.

286 was originally an American car too - run by Lane Sports for one of Rosen, Hunter or Rodriguez. Back history useful here too for same reason as 311.

292: Dan Marvin? When? This too was Lane Sports car in 82, but run in NZ series in early 83 for Mike Rosen. [chassis noted by David McKinney] Rebuilt on "new" tub after shunt at NZGP '83. This was the original tub out of RT4-355 [Norm Hunter] so if we're lucky it should now have tub 83/9 in it, not 82/158. [This might be the Marvin connection, as 355 was an Alan McCall car, and he ran Marvin later in the 80s.]

313 new to Lawrence and rented to some very useful drivers in its time.

331 Graham Watson/Bob Jane and used by Jones/Allison and Oxton

Chris

[Chris Townsend]

Missed one:
344 was an American car. Somewhere between August and October 82 delivery.
No idea who for, so again, any back history is useful.
Gradually sorting out RT4s for Atlantic histories in the 1980s, and since about a quarter of the build seems to now live in Australia that could solve a lot of problems!

Chris

[Pete Brennan]

Chris
292 maybe correct for Rosen,my mistake maybe was thinking it was the Marvin car,Graham Mein has 2 x 82 RT4's,the other is RT4-317 which maybe the Marvin car.Also will get the AM# off 292 from Mein

311 Will contact Hendo next week

286 John Clegg has no idea of history

344 will locate car

Pete

[Bryan Miller]

Chris,

Off topic , but did you recieve photo of March chassis number , or am I using inncorrect email address.

Bryan.

[Chris Townsend]

Does anyone in Australia have a contact for Andrew Miedecke?
There's a peculiarity in RT4 history he can help with

BTW
Bryan

You are using the correct email address and I did get the message. Afraid I've been a bit busy:
a] getting married
b] finishing book
c] having laptop repaired
so March records [and indeed all race related activities] took a back seat

Best
Chris