Lotus 35

[KDW]

thanks Ted

Kevin

[Michael Oliver]

Just digging around for something else unrelated and found a few more Lotus 35/41 titbits...

Freddy Kottulinsky was still racing his 41 in 1967 (I think Chris T had him driving the car in 1966 and 1968). He raced (and won) in the car at Keimola, May 4 1967. Also racing a 41 was H. Nilsson, who finished fifth at Roskilde May 28 1967.

Ernst Maring also raced his 35 at Roskilde, colour described as white.

Geoff Rollason had an accident in his 'brand new 41C' at the Shelsley Walsh hillclimb in early June 67, although he still won his class.

Also - don't know if this is of interest/relevance but one of the cars involved in the Caserta F3 race tragedy in June 1967 was described as a Lotus 32 driven by Franco Foresti. My understanding was that the 32 was a F2/Tasman car, so perhaps this was a 35?

Finally there is a nice picture of Willie Forbes driving his 2 litre Lotus 35 BMW to victory in a hillclimb at Fintray House in the June 30th 1967 edition of Autosport, p1077. The car is a light colour.

Michael

[macca]

Hi Kevin

Was that you at Donington the other week? How did you get on?

Paul

[KDW]

Yes it was me, and racing excuses number 103 in my book is " New unscrubbed Dunlops", The ride hight was way out as they were 60mm taller at front and 22mm taller at rear. Very little size choice on 13M section CR65 in 204 compound as demanded by Classic Racing Cars series.
Car went well, 1st time at Donnington and I liked the circuit, just need more car time, plus adjustable spring seats on Armstrongs, shorter springs.
Still have signed on at the gym so am getting more serious ! At 73", 101kgs and 59 years of age I don't quite fit the Jim Clark mould.
Do I love it - you bet !
Kevin
PS: its true you do meet a nicer class of person at my end of the grid !

[Neptune]

Kevin,

What sizes are the wheels generally found on 32s and 35s. I would suspect there is a range of widths, but maybe not?

Roger

[KDW]

A lot of the Lotus 35 were fitted with the 6 spoke alloys. Early cars had wobbly webs.
My car, the last tub built was, (I assume because they were on the car when bought, and it was very original in all details), was supplied with 6 and 7" W Webs.
In period as the cars grew older they were fitted with wider wheels and tyres, keeping up with the then current trends.
As to 32's I would need to check Wm Taylors book, as that is a fairly reliable source of info.
You have to remember with the 35, it could have had the 1 litre screamer from Cosworth or Holbay, the 1600cc or 1500cc Cosworth Lotus TC, The BRM or SCA 1 litre F2 engine, or the 2.5 FPF C Climax engines fitted, so the was certainly a selection of rims fitted to suit that lot.

[macca]

In the Lotus Book, the 35 is listed as having 6 x 13/8 x 13 tyres on 13 x 7/13 x 9 rims (the 32 had 5 x 13/6 x 13 tyres from another book), the 41 had 5 x 13/6 x 13 tyres on 13 x 7/13 x 9 rims (probably the 1966 F3 version) and the 44 had 5.5 x 13/9 x 13 tyres on 13 x 7/13 x 10 rims.

Paul

[KDW]

I wonder what the FIA papers in period said rergarding rim width.
Sounds as if I should buy new wider wheels and tyres !!
Kevin

[DaveM]

Michal Velebný has asked me to post this photo of Freddy Kottulinsky before he went out to practice for the International F3 Brno Grand Prix, 18.8.1968. Freddy finished 2nd behind Reine Wissel's Tecno. An excellent rare colour pic.

[KDW]

Interesting pic. If I remember correctly didn't Freddy at one stage buy a replacement (newer) car, and then reverted back to the 35.
Was is a 41 then went back to the 35 ??

Clive Chapman tells me the FIA papers in period specified 7 and 9" rims. That's what the photo seems to show?

Kevin

[KDW]

Does anyone have a photo of the Lotus 35 fitted with the Martin 3 litre V8 ??
Kevin

[DaveM]

It's here:

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...n&pagenumber=4

[macca]

I also have a photo of the car in that race (Mallory, Boxing Day 1966, driver Roy Pike), a rather poor b&w that I picked up at some show. Ted 'Ferret' sold me a nice pic of Piers Courage in practise for the 1967 RoC at Brands, and another similar shot was in one of Doug Nye's Lotus books (the two-part one from about 1972 which is very expensive nowadays).

Are you going to Silverstone next month, BTW?

Paul

[KDW]

Autosport Oct 22nd 1970
"the ex R Harris Lotus 44 raced by J Clark is being fitted with a Lotus TC and raced in F LIbre 1971 events by Roy Pickton, sponsors R & H Motors of SW London"

Any info on this and what happened to the car ??
Kevin

[KDW]

Talking to Ian Gordon of California at Classic Team Lotus 50 Year celebrations Dinner.
He tells me he is restoring 35 F4. Have asked for more details.
Note new email address
vintage-marine@tiscali.co.uk

[macca]

Just moving this one back up the list..........

Didn't see you at Brands, Kevin, are you doing any more mmetings this year - I'd love to see your car, and keep missing you.

I haven't seen John Oakley and his 18/21 for a while either, is he still racing in HSCC? I believe his car has an unusual chassis number - or at least the one I looked at on the plate on the dash didn't seem to fit with what I'd heard. His car was a an ex-Team car apparently, and had been fitted with all the permutations of gearbox in its time.

Paul M

[macca]

Goodwood was interesting - Robs' Lotus 33 now has all-yellow wheels, very smart although I think the 33s with 13-inch wheels always had silver rims and sometimes black centres.

I was struck by how small the Tasman 32B is (the predecessor of the 32) but how big the wheels are - I suppose they put 25/33 suspension on a 32 tub.

Unfortunately a Lotus 18 was very badly damaged in Chris Smith's crash, which was uncannily reminiscent of Moss in 1962 - the car was banana-shaped before they cut the front off to free his legs.

I'll try to get my Lotus-35-Martin V8 3-litre photo scanned and on here sometime.

Paul M

[macca]

http://www.fortunecity.com/silversto.../770/index.htm

Some pics of Tasman 35-Climax 2.5 litre.


http://www.photos.freeserve.com/shar...9&page=&group=

Willie Forbes' 35-BMW 2-litre, 1968.


Can someone ask Robs why his 33 at the Revival ran 15" wobblies at the back and 13" six-spoke at the front?


Paul M

[macca]

I'm having a few e-mail problems at the moment, but I'll try to get that Lotus-Martin picture posted, though I'll have to lighten it first.

Paul M

[macca]

Does anyone know the c/n of Robs' 35-BRM (apart from Robs himself; are you there, sir? )

Was that the car that was in the BRM display pavilion at Coys at (IIRC) 1999 - or is there another one with a BRM engine? I've found a couple more pictures from HSCC meetings too.


Paul M

[macca]

http://img95.exs.cx/img95/9407/Lucas...ylightened.jpg

[macca]

That link was the pic of Roy Pike in the Lucas Martin V8 3L-powered 35, c/n 19, at Mallory on Boxing Day 1966.


Looking at my pics and programmes, in 1999 John Tweedale had a t/c powered 35 in CRC at the HSCC meeting at Mallory, don't know the c/n.


Paul M

[macca]

posted by KDW:
"This is really aimed at Bryan Miller in Australia, but someone else may know.
The Lotus 32B is always written up as having a spacframe to carry the FPF.
Yet current photos of the car show it to have a normal 32 monocoque. Why/when did this piece of mis information arise, and can any of the previous Australian owners comment.
Kevin Whittle"

The confusion may have been between the 32B and the 39, which was similar to a 33 but with a tube-frame rear bay to take the flat-16 Climax, then fitted with an FPFfor Clark for the '65-'66 Tasman series.

Pete Lovely, ex-Lotus GP driver, has a 35 - see www.elcc.org under photos -but no c/n given.

Paul M

[macca]

In Classic Cars for March 1987, Innes Ireland reported on the Angouleme classic event (which he won) where there were two Lotus-35-BRMs; Robs Lamplough which he recorded as c/n 4, and Tony Hildebrand of Straight-Six Racing in c/n 3.

S-SR had their car advertised for sale in various mags for many months, listed as ex-Revson, Hart, Bondurant, Hermann & Fenning, with six-spoke wheels on it in the picture.

Paul M

[Kevin Whittle]

Hi Paul,

Good to have a few more chassis numbers.
Thanks
KDW