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Old 9 Jun 2020, 12:00 (Ref:3980974)   #436
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Do you mean the idea of Vettel to Mercedes is crazy, Greem? My primary point is to ask what Mercedes have to gain. More car sales in Germany with a German driver (very tricky or impossible to measure empircally) I'm not so sure.
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Old 9 Jun 2020, 12:20 (Ref:3980975)   #437
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Do you mean the idea of Vettel to Mercedes is crazy, Greem? My primary point is to ask what Mercedes have to gain. More car sales in Germany with a German driver (very tricky or impossible to measure empircally) I'm not so sure.
I was being slightly tongue-in-cheek, but seeing as you asked: yes, I do think that's a crazy idea.

It's marginally less crazy than the Hamilton-to-Ferrari suggestions in that Vettel has gone somewhat off the boil and isn't the dominant force he once threatened to be, but most of my previous concerns would remain for both scenarios. In either case it would, as you suggested, be box-office gold but all parties have far more to lose than I feel they would gain.

Either driver could see their career end - consider the fanfare when Vettel moved to Ferrari, what's happened there since, and how during the last 18 months or so he's repeatedly shown cracks in his usually quite personable nature. There's no way on this earth that Hamilton would want that.

And the other way round, Vettel to Mercedes? If he's as washed-up and burned out as he's appeared at Ferrari, there's no way the board would take him. If he suddenly shines so brightly that he hammers Hamilton, there's equally no way the board would take him (and no way Hamilton would, either).

I've been wrong before, and I expect to be again, but I just don't see the inherent risks in either of the possible moves as beneficial to the drivers, teams or sponsors.
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Old 9 Jun 2020, 13:33 (Ref:3980982)   #438
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Those who think Sainz won't cast any shadow over Leclerc don't seem to have watched him... oh wait.
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Old 10 Jul 2020, 06:59 (Ref:3987128)   #439
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If Vettel goes back to RedBull as seems increasingly likely where does that leave Albon? Back in TR/AT? With Gasly or kivyat down the dole office?
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Old 10 Jul 2020, 08:33 (Ref:3987145)   #440
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Be a blow to Albon if that was the case. He certainly seems more comfortable than Gasly was in that seat.

Vettel has said he would say yes to Red Bull, but all that links him is appeared on Red Bull TV. Will be tough alongside Max for him. It would probably bring back memories of 2014 for him. But he's also not ruling out going to Racing Point either
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If Vettel goes back to RedBull as seems increasingly likely where does that leave Albon? Back in TR/AT? With Gasly or kivyat down the dole office?
Horner rules out Red Bull return for Vettel

'Horner has told Sky Sports F1 that "it is not something we can accomodate" given the faith they have in their present pairing of Alexander Albon and Max Verstappen.

"That is something I think that Sebastian is aware of, in fact I know he is," said Horner.'
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Old 10 Jul 2020, 09:44 (Ref:3987159)   #442
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It is never wise to believe anything Horner says :-)
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I believe him tbf. Certainly at this moment in time, anyways.

Might be a different story if Albon goes on to have a horror year. Unlikely and, even then, they would surely have more options than just Vettel?
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Vettel is probably just trying to get his name out there with a competitive team. I canít see it happening quite frankly
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Old 10 Jul 2020, 13:35 (Ref:3987221)   #445
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Teams are now tripping over themselves to tell the world that they don't want Vettel. Even small teams like Racing Point are saying no.
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Old 10 Jul 2020, 13:51 (Ref:3987224)   #446
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Seems Seb will struggle to get any seat at this rate. I wonder though how much his stock has gone down from being outpaced and outscored considerably by young gun Leclerc last season. And I doubt his performance in his first race would have helped his cause.

With Vettel being dropped either two things would have happened with his performance. He would either with nothing to lose, felt no pressure and gone out and shown us at least something like the Seb who won four titles with RBR. Or he would have let his head drop even more and being completely trounced by his team mate. Sadly it looks like the latter has happened
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He has just made too many mistakes on track. Thatís it.

Nobody wants someone who spins off or crashes at every third Grand Prix.

His career can survive being outpaced by a youngster. It canít withstand his transformation into Andrea de Cesaris.
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His career can survive being outpaced by a youngster. It can’t withstand his transformation into Andrea de Cesaris.
Pastor Maldovettel?
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Nah, Pastor at least brought cash to fix what he broke.
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He has just made too many mistakes on track. Thatís it.

Nobody wants someone who spins off or crashes at every third Grand Prix.

His career can survive being outpaced by a youngster. It canít withstand his transformation into Andrea de Cesaris.
The mistakes are part of his poor performances. It's a combination of things why he's not exactly high on team's shortlist for 2021
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