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Old 11 Apr 2020, 16:16 (Ref:3970108)   #31
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A great driver with a narrow window of performance.

If he were a Mercedes F1 car he would be labelled a diva perhaps.
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Old 11 Apr 2020, 17:10 (Ref:3970116)   #32
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Indeed, Mark Webber said when things donít go well for Seb, heís never seen anyone so childish
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Old 11 Apr 2020, 17:52 (Ref:3970123)   #33
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Indeed, Mark Webber said when things donít go well for Seb, heís never seen anyone so childish
Marks problem was he was cut from the same cloth as Seb, but without the skill. Doesn't like team orders, happy to disobey them, had a good whine at every opportunity.

The only difference between the two of them was sometimes Seb got the job done.
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Old 11 Apr 2020, 18:21 (Ref:3970128)   #34
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A great driver with a narrow window of performance.

If he were a Mercedes F1 car he would be labelled a diva perhaps.
Nevertheless, if he was to be Lewis' teammate, I would say Lewis had to worry.
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Old 11 Apr 2020, 18:45 (Ref:3970134)   #35
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Nevertheless, if he was to be Lewis' teammate, I would say Lewis had to worry.
It would be career suicide for Seb, IMO.
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Old 12 Apr 2020, 00:25 (Ref:3970178)   #36
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He was class. Seen the highlights once on TV and knew more about F1 than people whoíd worked in F1 for years.
He never really forgave Vettel for not signing an autograph, or running over his dog, or something..
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Old 12 Apr 2020, 00:29 (Ref:3970180)   #37
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The problem is if Hamilton leaves, who would take his place? With Max and Charles locked in to their teams, they wonít get a seat. I guess Russell could, but he would need this season to get going so he could get more experience. Then again, his talent would probably shine through anyway.

Would Merc be able to get the best out of Seb though? Hmm...
If Hamilton leaves they have the perfect scenario of evaluating their two best options in this year's Renault
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It would be career suicide for Seb, IMO.
Not for Lewis? Unlike Lewis, Seb has already scored four titles in a row and he scored his 4th one at age 26 (Lewis was 32 when he made it to his fourth one, just like Schumi). And we don't know what would've happened, had Rosberg not retired after his title, perhaps Lewis would still be a three times champion.
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Old 12 Apr 2020, 00:58 (Ref:3970189)   #39
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Not for Lewis? Unlike Lewis, Seb has already scored four titles in a row and he scored his 4th one at age 26
With four titles in a row, why on earth did Vettel run off to a different team than the all-conquering Red Bull!?

It's hardly a way to show loyalty is it!?
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With four titles in a row, why on earth did Vettel run off to a different team than the all-conquering Red Bull!?

It's hardly a way to show loyalty is it!?
Well, Lewis switched from the then-best Mercedes team to the now-best Mercedes team. Both have been working closely together until McLaren moved to Honda (and later Renault) at the end of 2014 and will likely be as close when they return to Mercedes in 2021.

And yes, it was because of Ricciardo. I would say Ricciardo made a mistake moving to Renault, and I already know why Mercedes won't give him a seat...
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Vettel will be an enigma. Thereís no doubt heís a great, as his four titles prove, but even so, I would hesitate to put him among the all time greats. He made mistakes in his early days, but then after he won his title, in the best car he seemed to be unstoppable. Then Ricciardo came along and the car didnít suit Vettel, so he struggled. He redeemed himself going to Ferrari initially, but then after a season or two the mistakes crept in and heís thrown away any hope of challenging Merc for the title. Just imagine what Alonso would have done in those three seasons with Ferrari
Alonso might be a good driver but this shows why his career choices are total rubbish, he didn't stick around and have patience. Anyway why pick on Alonso, Hamilton would be at least his equal and his career choices definitely do not suck so to speak. This period of time has greatly decreased Alonso's chances of returning to F1 for which a lot of people will be very grateful. BTW for full disclosure I am president of the "I hate Alonso club"
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Not for Lewis? Unlike Lewis, Seb has already scored four titles in a row and he scored his 4th one at age 26 (Lewis was 32 when he made it to his fourth one, just like Schumi). And we don't know what would've happened, had Rosberg not retired after his title, perhaps Lewis would still be a three times champion.
No, without a shred of a doubt, not for Lewis. True that Rosberg could have pushed him, but he didn't have the stomach for it so cut and ran (not that I blame him at all for that). He knew that Mercedes was Lewis' team and Seb would know that too. It just isn't going to happen anyway. Why would Mercedes even think of taking Vettel after the most fallible period of his F1 career?
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Why would Mercedes even think of taking Vettel after the most fallible period of his F1 career?
To please the ABH fraternity?
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No, without a shred of a doubt, not for Lewis. True that Rosberg could have pushed him, but he didn't have the stomach for it so cut and ran (not that I blame him at all for that). He knew that Mercedes was Lewis' team and Seb would know that too. It just isn't going to happen anyway. Why would Mercedes even think of taking Vettel after the most fallible period of his F1 career?
Because they are German. I like Bottas tho, but he's clearly worse than Vettel and Hamilton. But Wolff of course wants a #2 next to Hamilton.
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Of course he does. So would I. But I don't see Wolff having any interest in Vettel right now, just because he's German....
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