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16 Sep 2009, 12:53 (Ref:2541945)
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Crowd Numbers...
It seems Australia isnt the only market having difficulty with sustaining crowd numbers for events if THIS is anything to go by
The magic question is how to improve the show, the package, the deliverable, the events, the whatever, to make the crowd numbers increase. F1 is clearly off the boil if they are 16% off the prior year. Has you wondering if Mr Schumacher was driving if it would be the same, kind of like when Mr Brock made his comeback in the red RNR car all those moons ago What is the Aussie solution? |
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16 Sep 2009, 14:08 (Ref:2542007)
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Cold Chisel apparently....
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16 Sep 2009, 14:50 (Ref:2542059)
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Ticket prices keep going up by large jumps, represent poor value for money against football games, and your average punter do not care that a V8 Supercar meeting goes all day when Football doesn't.
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16 Sep 2009, 18:23 (Ref:2542266)
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I wonder if the profits have gone down. Maybe the powers that be are not to worried about overall numbers. They seem to be more catering for corporate customers rather than the common fans. . All good until you get a down turn in the economy and corporations pull in the marketing budgets. Also major television network coverage is the Holy Grail for a race series. I am of the opinion that the V8 series seems to still get good attendants, especially considering the small population. Also the overall show is good, with value added entertainment (concerts ect..) I work all around the world in motorsport, and Oz major races seem to be the best attended. I have attended several World Touring Car meetings this year and they had very few genaeral spectators. Even Brit Touring car meetings don't have the atmosphere. Clipsal rates above any other race meet i've attended for atmosphere.
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16 Sep 2009, 19:49 (Ref:2542342)
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Hmm, whats that thing we are in the middle of at present?
Worldwide recession. A lot of people just don't have the cash to spend on the crazy ticket prices just to get in the gate. |
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16 Sep 2009, 22:49 (Ref:2542459)
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17 Sep 2009, 00:34 (Ref:2542504)
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At $6/can for cat's wee disguised as XXXX Gold, is it any wonder the punters smuggle in some sly stuff???
My wife was still finding cans of Jim Beam hidden in the car for 3 weeks after we went to The Island last year. |
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17 Sep 2009, 02:20 (Ref:2542543)
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17 Sep 2009, 02:23 (Ref:2542544)
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17 Sep 2009, 03:56 (Ref:2542562)
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Lop-sided championship about to get worse in 2010 with too many commodores.
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17 Sep 2009, 04:12 (Ref:2542570)
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Do crowd numbers matter when TV pays the bills.
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17 Sep 2009, 11:25 (Ref:2542725)
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Have any crowd numbers been released for last weekend's event?
It would be intersting to compare them with the Winton numbers from earlier this year. May be an influence in deciding the replacement venue. |
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18 Sep 2009, 02:44 (Ref:2543187)
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18 Sep 2009, 07:08 (Ref:2543238)
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You can increase your crowd numbers by handing out more corporate passes and counting them as the "average punters"
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18 Sep 2009, 07:25 (Ref:2543246)
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The problem with the whole show is that it has become sterile. The support programs are overexposed sterile boring. Combination of TC;s crew greed. CAMS greed, boring,boring racing and nothing that gets people excited all equals a disservice to motorsport. Throw in the temporary circuits where only 5 seconds a lap can see anything and you get the point. |
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i have no doubt that you are wrong silver.
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http://www.inetpics.com/showimage.aspx?unid=146837
http://www.inetpics.com/showimage.aspx?unid=146838 Ahh the life of a race promoter. One minute your up the next your down. sorry links don't go directly there; search for 090913-Y2-0028.jpg and 090913-Y2-0033.jpg Last edited by Matthew Ronke; 19 Sep 2009 at 04:58. Reason: links not working |
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Bring on the Endurance season, and some big name DNF's... (I'd love to see the V8 Chumpionship decided @ Winton, thus making the El Grande Finale the flop it deserves to be...)
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19 Sep 2009, 08:20 (Ref:2543745)
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Do we adopt an existing overseas formula? S2000, WTCC, BTCC, DTM, ect? or do we start with a clean slate? How many teams could afford a big change if told all their existing cars, spares, engines, equipment is now redunant and have to purchase/build everything from scratch, which would also destroy the resale value of their existing stuff? Could/would DJR and GRM for example? Or do we evolve the existing cars and gradually phase out the existing equipment? What would manufacturers prefer? Parity based or 'run what ya brung'? I agree that it's time for a change as the existing formula is now 17 years old and Ford and Holden's Financial involvment is greatly different to what it was a few years ago, buts whats the answer? |
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no relation Rachel. Just dont see the need to bag the guy for doing his job. and dont want to go back to the bad old days (which to many think of as good when they were not)
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1. Reduce the aero grip 2. Get rid of the contrived pitstops. 3. reduce the braking cappabilty 4. Change the tyre compound so it only lasts for 3/4 of a race. Do you go hard at the start and try and hang on to the gap or do you try and conserve some tyres for the latter part of the race |
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