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Old 3 Jul 2020, 19:55 (Ref:3985389)   #691
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Really? I run a kart team and we're 50% up on turnover compared to June last year with more enquiries too. Race meetings are sold out. So are hillclimbs and sprints. And these are just the first few events.

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Looks really positive. Entries for Combe, Snetts and Cadwell look pretty good this weekend. Hope everyone has a great and safe weekend. HSCC at Brands next week looks fantastic. Hope we can make the most of the season.

Glad to hear of the turnover increase Max, really good news.
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Old 3 Jul 2020, 22:04 (Ref:3985415)   #692
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Really? I run a kart team and we're 50% up on turnover compared to June last year with more enquiries too. Race meetings are sold out. So are hillclimbs and sprints. And these are just the first few events.

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I'm talking about next season. This year there were people geared up and ready to go, plus we're only just starting to go racing; with the lack of prior meetings this year everyone is ready and raring to go, but I still think the next couple of years are going to be sparse.
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Old 3 Jul 2020, 22:39 (Ref:3985418)   #693
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I think maybe it's too soon to say for certain. It is possible that the initial rush to get back out there racing could simply be a spike caused by people reacting to not having been able to do anything for months.

In that case, it could peter out once that initial flurry fades. Will it just be a 'honeymoon period'?

If the first few meetings planned are reporting higher than usual entries, and people like Max are seeing more than normal interest, it is somewhat difficult to understand how that would be sustainable long term. I'm struggling to imagine a scenario where the Covid situation could give a long term boost to motorsport.

Am I missing something here? Does anyone have any theories as to how the Covid situation could create an increase in competitor participation, at any level, beyond the short term? Considering that millions have lost their jobs during the lockdown, and millions more small business owners (who, can we assume, make up a fair chunk of the competitor demographic?) have had their incomes severely impacted, then it seems logical that this would have an overall negative effect on competitor numbers, in the medium and, possibly, long term.

I'd be happy to be proved wrong, but am not entirely convinced that I will be, sadly.
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I think maybe it's too soon to say for certain. It is possible that the initial rush to get back out there racing could simply be a spike caused by people reacting to not having been able to do anything for months.

In that case, it could peter out once that initial flurry fades. Will it just be a 'honeymoon period'?

If the first few meetings planned are reporting higher than usual entries, and people like Max are seeing more than normal interest, it is somewhat difficult to understand how that would be sustainable long term. I'm struggling to imagine a scenario where the Covid situation could give a long term boost to motorsport.

Am I missing something here? Does anyone have any theories as to how the Covid situation could create an increase in competitor participation, at any level, beyond the short term? Considering that millions have lost their jobs during the lockdown, and millions more small business owners (who, can we assume, make up a fair chunk of the competitor demographic?) have had their incomes severely impacted, then it seems logical that this would have an overall negative effect on competitor numbers, in the medium and, possibly, long term.

I'd be happy to be proved wrong, but am not entirely convinced that I will be, sadly.
Who knows but I fear you may be quite right. With less people racing though, we may see a big reduction in the number of meetings and in the silly number of competing championships and events which have damaged the sport over the last few years. A period of consolidation may mean fewer, but better, events with full grids of true enthusiasts in future.. Which I would think of as a good thing. But I will enjoy the next couple of months while it lasts. Brands will be fantastic if everyone entered makes it out on the track.
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Just looked at Cadwell on TSL - 22 entrants in the Junior Saloon Car Cup...15 in the 2CV championship, tho their qualy has been redflagged after 1 lap.... Not sure how those entry levels compare to "normal"?

And looking at Snetterton - Entries in the low to high 30s for each of MSVT's Supercup, Trackday Championship and Track Attack Race Club series....so pretty fair, tho not full.

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There will be a bit of pent up demand from those who haven't been able to get on track until now, they will have also saved money by not competing.

Covid-19 is bound to have some impact on discretionary spend (which spending money on motor racing as an owner or a brand sponsor) and actually because it has impacted on almost all areas of business, some of the normally insulated well off may be impacted. Even luxury brands will take a hit.

Personally I think some of the bigger classic events will need to trim their expectation and cut some of the non-track elements, arguably some have got too big and too costly and thereby risky. Perhaps some of the expectation for 'bigger and better' and each year being 'record breaking' needs to be tempered.
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There are bound to be a lot of folk badly hit, either losing jobs, reduced income etc. It will be at all levels of wealth. I suspect the kids with rich daddies hoping to be the next George Russell will be fewer as will the older businessmen who do sports and GT plus perhaps historic and use preparation firms and pay drivers.
On the other hand there are many folk whose income has been unaffected but due to the virus have greatly reduced their spending. I admit to be in that category. Since early March I've only filled the car up once, we've had no days or meals out and our spring holiday was cancelled. I am sure there are many in the same boat. However I think some folk will see how much they have saved and/or have taken up another hobby that is less costly.
As a speed clerk and on the HC&S Committee, there will be far fewer speed events this year. The permanent venues like Prescott, Shelsley and Harwood are running a reduced programme, mainly because they have bills to pay, bit it will be difficult and there will be fewer entries allowed. The casual venues will have a much tougher job in trying to fit in with the new rules and many are not bothering, but in some cases it is the venue owner who is saying know. There is also a real danger that the stoppage could be permanent.
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Pubs , barbers and restaurants open today but BARC tell me that the Harewood hillclimb on 2 August is closed to spectators . It is on top of a windy hill , it is very easy to socially distance over extensive spectator areas and it rarely gets big crowds - what the hell is going on ?
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Richard I think 15 2CV is rather low. Normally there's more but I guess you saw no foreigners, French competitors for instance.
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The permanent venues like Prescott, Shelsley and Harwood are running a reduced programme, mainly because they have bills to pay, bit it will be difficult and there will be fewer entries allowed. The casual venues will have a much tougher job in trying to fit in with the new rules and many are not bothering, but in some cases it is the venue owner who is saying know. There is also a real danger that the stoppage could be permanent.[/QUOTE]

At Mallory we've found that the Trackdays (mainly bikes) are going very well, 4 extra days were added in June and 2 more in July. Circuits make more money from these than Race Days. At the moment it's even better due to the lack of 'add on people' friends, family and even spectators, who leave litter etc that then needs to be cleared up.
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We were racing today at the first MSUK kart meeting since lockdown, and the first "national" non-MSUK meeting at another circuit as well.

I was at the MSUK one. Firstly, as I have said before, C19 has forced MSUK to join the 21st century. Self-declaration scrutineering, electronic signing on, online booking and payment, grids and times posted online as opposed to just in the window of race control. The club made use of its FB page to publicise results.

We had to wear masks at all times, there was hand sanitizer at regular points - and in my awning - and awnings had to have sides removed. The karts were gridded up every other space not directly side by side. Biggest difference of all - Cadets and Juniors on Saturday, seniors and gearbox on Sunday so the paddock was only 50% full. Not all clubs are doing that though.

Overall it was brilliant. No hindrance to socialising like people were worried about. In fact apart from the above you'd not know of The Virus Crisis. Brilliant, brilliant day, so good to be back.



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