[Driver] The GOAT - Round One - Moss vs Hill.P

[crmalcolm]

The twenty-seventh match-up in Round One sees Moss vs Hill.P.

So who do you vote for as the greater driver?

Stirling Moss
With good reason, Stirling Moss is often cited as the greatest non-champion driver in F1 history. Had his career not been cut short there by a devastating accident, Moss’ peak would have briefly intersected with Jim Clark’s, leading to perhaps one of the greatest driver rivalries in F1 history.

The only teammate that Moss could seemingly not better was the great Juan Manuel Fangio, to whom he lost 1-5 in counting races and 2-5 in qualifying. Notably, the losses in counting races included a race where Moss broke down and then took over another car, as well as the 1957 Argentine GP where Moss started from pole but had a very long pit-stop to fix a throttle linkage problem. Fangio’s slight edge over Moss, although from a small sample, cannot really be explained by age (Moss was 26) or by experience (Moss had raced in grands prix since 1948).

Phil Hill
America's first world champion, Phil Hill would probably have achieved more had he not switched to the ill-fated ATS operation at the end of 1962.

Hill, who also carved out a successful sportscar career, demonstrated himself to be a good team player when he moved aside at the 1958 Moroccan GP to enable Ferrari team-mate Mike Hawthorn to take the title. He was rewarded with a full-time drive and took his first GP win at Monza in 1960 after the British teams boycotted the banked circuit.

It's often said that only the death of Wolfgang von Trips allowed Hill to take his title in 1961, but he had been evenly matched with his team-mate and was still a threat when the German made his fatal mistake at Monza.

There were no more F1 wins, but Hill would go on winning sportscar races until 1967.

[chillibowl]

i wish i had looked at this one before saying how much i rate titles in the Villeneuve bracket.

[BTCC frog]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

i wish i had looked at this one before saying how much i rate titles in the Villeneuve bracket.

This is probably the best non-champion versus the worst champion

[FIRE]

Moss