ALMS 2009 Discussion - Page 115

Purist · 11 Sep 2009, 03:52 (Ref:2538157)

Arakis, it's a question of whether the road car engine has the system or not. If it doesn't, neither should the race car. As for the Lola-Aston, it uses a production-based engine from the GT1 car, which is why this DI issue comes into play for them as well even though it's a prototype and not a GT.

NightStalk3r · 11 Sep 2009, 17:09 (Ref:2538644)

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Originally Posted by arakis

since Ferrari is getting DI next year

Unless they release a new F430 next year with Direct Injection, they wont have it for long.

HORNDAWG · 11 Sep 2009, 17:20 (Ref:2538658)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Unless they release a new F430 next year with Direct Injection, they wont have it for long.

Yes, I would imagine until the 458 is on the grid there will be no DI in a Ferrari GT on the grid! You reap what you sow.

L.P.

WMUCarGuy · 11 Sep 2009, 21:40 (Ref:2538791)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Unless they release a new F430 next year with Direct Injection, they wont have it for long.

Well the new 458 and California have DI, so it's not out of the question that Ferrari could throw DI on the 430 for it's final year before the 458 takes over in both road and racing versions. That being said, I doubt we'll see that happen.

NightStalk3r · 11 Sep 2009, 22:29 (Ref:2538816)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

Well the new 458 and California have DI, so it's not out of the question that Ferrari could throw DI on the 430 for it's final year before the 458 takes over in both road and racing versions. That being said, I doubt we'll see that happen.

But the 458 and California arent the Homologation models for the F430 so i dont see how that would make any difference?

HORNDAWG · 11 Sep 2009, 22:57 (Ref:2538828)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

But the 458 and California arent the Homologation models for the F430 so i dont see how that would make any difference?

It doesn't!

L.P.

WMUCarGuy · 12 Sep 2009, 02:43 (Ref:2538877)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

But the 458 and California arent the Homologation models for the F430 so i dont see how that would make any difference?

I'm saying if they put the DI motor in the 430 for the final year of production, they could homologate it for the race car.

CTD · 12 Sep 2009, 13:18 (Ref:2539022)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

I'm saying if they put the DI motor in the 430 for the final year of production, they could homologate it for the race car.

Well, it isn't sure that would fit!, Also, how many would buy a 430, when the new is coming 1 year after!, Ferrari need to produce a certain amount of DI 430's to get it homologated, and if they can't sell the 430, then there is no sense in it!

WMUCarGuy · 12 Sep 2009, 15:27 (Ref:2539075)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Well, it isn't sure that would fit!, Also, how many would buy a 430, when the new is coming 1 year after!, Ferrari need to produce a certain amount of DI 430's to get it homologated, and if they can't sell the 430, then there is no sense in it!

They could drop in the DI lump and badge it as the "Finale Edition" or something and people would buy the hell out of it.

CTD · 12 Sep 2009, 15:39 (Ref:2539083)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

They could drop in the DI lump and badge it as the "Finale Edition" or something and people would buy the hell out of it.

Don't know know much about the technical aspect of DI, but isn't it pretty hard just "drop in the DI lump" in a engine which isn't build for it?

WMUCarGuy · 12 Sep 2009, 16:22 (Ref:2539099)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Don't know know much about the technical aspect of DI, but isn't it pretty hard just "drop in the DI lump" in a engine which isn't build for it?

The California Spyder has the DI version of the 430's motor. I'm sure there's a bit more they've modified than just adding DI, but it's essentially the same motor.

1969MGCGTdriver · 12 Sep 2009, 16:49 (Ref:2539112)

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Originally Posted by chewymonster

The road going Corvettes don't have it, so why should the GT2s? I think this goes against the rules IIRC.

DI will be back in the Chevettes at Sebring. This is DI removal is for the remainder of this season only.

Dead-Eye · 12 Sep 2009, 19:40 (Ref:2539194)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Don't know know much about the technical aspect of DI, but isn't it pretty hard just "drop in the DI lump" in a engine which isn't build for it?

Lump is the "technical term" for engine

AX lover · 13 Sep 2009, 17:39 (Ref:2539837)

The F430 is already out of production.

rich07 · 14 Sep 2009, 00:27 (Ref:2540107)

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Originally Posted by AX lover

The F430 is already out of production.

Thats what I thought upon reading this page, I vaguely remember the last 430 being painted in silver with a gold stripe and being auctioned off for charity to help the victims of the earthquake in Italy. Production was supposed to end this year sometime, if it has actually finished now I do not know.

mazda1 · 14 Sep 2009, 02:39 (Ref:2540146)

The 458 will be at Sebring next year.

The Badger · 14 Sep 2009, 02:56 (Ref:2540154)

Risi will use a modded 430 next year . Who will have the 458 next year ..... cuz afaik it wont be raced until 2011 .

WMUCarGuy · 14 Sep 2009, 03:22 (Ref:2540159)

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Originally Posted by mazda1

The 458 will be at Sebring next year.

430s, not 458s. The 458 GT2 won't be available til 2011.

Jonerz · 14 Sep 2009, 14:52 (Ref:2540499)

A display model of the 458 roadcar may be on display at Risi.

Chris

Canada ALMS fan · 14 Sep 2009, 18:35 (Ref:2540670)

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Originally Posted by Jonerz

A display model of the 458 roadcar may be on display at Risi.

Chris

That makes more sense. They did the same thing with the first 599 in North America, they had it in the paddock at Laguna Seca in '06.

NightStalk3r · 14 Sep 2009, 21:08 (Ref:2540776)

Vici added to the entry list with Stuck and Westbrook driving.

AndrewF31 · 14 Sep 2009, 23:45 (Ref:2540857)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Vici added to the entry list with Stuck and Westbrook driving.

Good lineup. Hopefully they won't pull out.

**joeb** · 15 Sep 2009, 13:40 (Ref:2541209)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Vici added to the entry list with Stuck and Westbrook driving.

hmm, I just looked at the IMSA site and the entry list I see was updated on the 12th and doesn't include the VICI car

Also, the restrictor break that was initially given to the Judd 5.5 liter has been rescinded by IMSA.

JHamilton · 15 Sep 2009, 13:44 (Ref:2541213)

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Originally Posted by joeb

hmm, I just looked at the IMSA site and the entry list I see was updated on the 12th and doesn't include the VICI car

Also, the restrictor break that was initially given to the Judd 5.5 liter has been rescinded by IMSA.

That's crazy because I looked last night and it was there... today they are gone. So I guess they have entered and withdrawn already?

The Badger · 15 Sep 2009, 13:50 (Ref:2541219)

I sure hope they get their act together next year .

I thought the reason they were a late season entry was because the T-Mobile deal hadnt been done on time , and now they withdraw from PLM ..... exactly how long was the T-mobile deal for ?

Shame for Stuck & Westbrook .

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