ALMS 2009 Discussion

[Jonerz]

Just reading my post, I think I probably meant too much of a danger. Have no idea how that came out. But yeah, lesser car count - negative, lesser danger, let the big dogs race at the dangerous track without the lunacy of certain amateurs - positive.

Chris

[dxk1]

Originally Posted by Jonerz

Kind of a bummer that Corsa isn't on the list. The car was suffering from an incurable vibration last I heard. That makes me wonder if the team is going to take the time to try and sort it out through testing, rather than sending the car and its drivers from the frying pan into the fire that is Mosport's fast, tight, dangerous 2.4 miles.

Chris

There was also some discussion during the last race (Road America) on Speed, that the electric motor was actually not providing any power at all and was actually a drag on the system and they hadn't properly sorted that out either. I'm not sure I got that right, but that could also be part of the problem and they probably want to get everything properly sorted for PLM where any little glitch is enlarged by the length of the race.

DK

[dxk1]

Originally Posted by Jonerz

Just reading my post, I think I probably meant too much of a danger. Have no idea how that came out. But yeah, lesser car count - negative, lesser danger, let the big dogs race at the dangerous track without the lunacy of certain amateurs - positive.

Chris

Being this is such a high speed track, I agree that it was a good idea to keep the Challenge cars away. This seems like the kind of track where the Fields have a decent chance to get to the top of the podium with the straight line speed of their Lotus.

DK

[Zurbert82]

Originally Posted by dxk1

Being this is such a high speed track, I agree that it was a good idea to keep the Challenge cars away. This seems like the kind of track where the Fields have a decent chance to get to the top of the podium with the straight line speed of their Lotus.

DK

I didn't know Intersport ran a Lotus. Interesting.

[Jonerz]

Originally Posted by dxk1

There was also some discussion during the last race (Road America) on Speed, that the electric motor was actually not providing any power at all and was actually a drag on the system and they hadn't properly sorted that out either. I'm not sure I got that right, but that could also be part of the problem and they probably want to get everything properly sorted for PLM where any little glitch is enlarged by the length of the race.

DK

Yeah, I remember the SPEED guys talking about it. Unfortunate.

Chris

[dxk1]

Originally Posted by Zurbert82

I didn't know Intersport ran a Lotus. Interesting.

Ahh, Lola, Lotus, whats the Dif?

DK

[Jonerz]

Fortunately I'm able to stream today! Thought I was going to be on the road today, but I'm at home and patiently awaiting the announcement. Will it be more towards 3:30 or will my typing drown out the announcement?

Chris

[davehenrie]

Originally Posted by dxk1

Ahh, Lola, Lotus, whats the Dif?

DK

Everybody knows that race cars are just like Barbequers. One or two companies make all the brands, they just stop from time to time on the assembly line and put a different manufacturer's nameplate on the barbeque. So All the Blaze Kings and Charbroils etc come from the same factory. Just different production runs.
Racecars the same way...All cars starting with the letter L are built in a Factory in Lyon and then shipped to the buyer. All A cars are built in Adelaide etc. I know this for a fact because my sister's third cousin on her mother's side(twice removed) was getting a guided tour of a shop that had many different car makes inside. They tried to disguise the process by calling the factory a museum, but my sister's third cousin on her mother's side(twice removed) is no dummy and wasn't fooled.

dh

[CTD]

Originally Posted by Jonerz

Fortunately I'm able to stream today! Thought I was going to be on the road today, but I'm at home and patiently awaiting the announcement. Will it be more towards 3:30 or will my typing drown out the announcement?

Chris

Is this the big announcement?:
http://www.translate.google.dk/trans...2F&sl=fr&tl=en

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by gsmith2424

Very true but my thing would also be now is that would they also be able to get the ALMS champion invite for LeMans as seeing they were the only team to run to ACO spec all year?

Sorry I evidently did not understand your question the first time. You can only gain ALMS team championship points if you are a full season entrant! > SSR 4.1 on pg# 66 Here





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[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by CTD

Is this the big announcement?:
http://www.translate.google.dk/trans...2F&sl=fr&tl=en

Yes, that would be it.






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[pdxracefan]

Originally Posted by Jonerz

Yeah, I remember the SPEED guys talking about it. Unfortunate.

Chris

Heard the same thing. Definately have some bugger to work out of it. Can't be good if the brakes are on when your foot's on the loud pedal.

[dxk1]

As I posted in the Rocketsports Jag thread, the ALMS site has an article that implies the Jag will show up at PLM. I'll believe it when I see it but I do hope they are right. The GT2 class will certainly be a highlight of the race. The article is here: http://www.americanlemans.com/index_news.php?n=13720

DK

[MJ_N_09]

Too bad it'll be drowned out by the Audi vs. Peugeot once again.

[davehenrie]

Originally Posted by MJ_N_09

Too bad it'll be drowned out by the Audi vs. Peugeot once again.

A clash between the two dominant manufacturers in sportscars is a reason for sadness? What about the Acura vs Oreca battle? Or the Mazda vs Green Petrol battle? (wha? since last year, the Mazda's on both sides of the ATlantic have suffered a much larger number of experations than non-turbo engines. AER has pointed especially at the Euro blends but even here in the USA, the harder Team Dyson runs the MZR-R powerplants, the more likely they seem to go POOF! )

Frankly Porsche was given a large advantage early in the ALMS season and only recently has been reigned in, a little too much if I may add. So the mystery surrounding the possible appearance of some car painted green is almost a footnote on what 'could' be one of the more memorable Petites ever.

[AndrewF31]

This year's Petit could be even better than last years, which was great already.

[The Badger]

Certainly could be !!!

...... the Eco Radical should cause quite a stir on the grid . Im looking forward to seeing what it can do . Should be a brilliant car , and 2 decent drivers too .

The bear is suggesting that the LNT Zytek could be another possible addition to the ranks for PLM .

[fjn356]

I have tried to put together a matrix for GT2 that lists car, weight,engine size, valves, restrictor size, tire size and other (such as wing placement) performance variations based on my reading of the IMSA and ACO site data. I have given up trying to understand the IMSA and ACO lingo. Has anyone else successfully done this that would be willing to share the matrix? This would come in very handy for PLM and the provider would be showered with gratitude. Well, on this forum, maybe disputes is a more accurate word than gratitude.

If not, I will give it another shot and post it for my betters to correct.

[joeb]

There was a new IMSA performance bulletin last week. In P1 the Ginetta-Zytek 09HS gets a minimum weight of 875kg and a Judd's 5.5L engine gets 2 restrictors at 34.1. I dont' know how this changes what was previously allowed for the Judd, but is the Zytek even close to being under 900kg? I thought the hybrid was a but of extra weight.

Also the Ford GT gets a restrictor change and wing modification.

[pederb]

Originally Posted by joeb

There was a new IMSA performance bulletin

Also the Ford GT gets a restrictor change and wing modification.

Do we know what they actually mean? Larger or smaller restrictor and what rear wing did they use before?

Cheers

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by pederb

Do we know what they actually mean? Larger or smaller restrictor and what rear wing did they use before?

Cheers

The Doran will be moving up 1 weight class as it pertains to restrictor, more air. But will have to give up the GT-1 wing and run the GT-2 wing and in the GT-2 position, less downforce. As compared to #09-03 Here




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[pederb]

Thank you, once again you answer my questions

Cheers

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by joeb

There was a new IMSA performance bulletin last week. In P1 the Ginetta-Zytek 09HS gets a minimum weight of 875kg and a Judd's 5.5L engine gets 2 restrictors at 34.1. I dont' know how this changes what was previously allowed for the Judd, but is the Zytek even close to being under 900kg? I thought the hybrid was a but of extra weight.

Also the Ford GT gets a restrictor change and wing modification.

Well the Judd has no previous adjustments that it is running under that I know of, so the change would be from the 'stock' restrictor(s) from the table which were 32.9 for the N/A, more than 2 valve, 5.5L Judd. So up 1.2 x 2 on the restrictor, a bit of air. But probably not out of line to be competitive.

Will the GZ09-SH be running in Hybrid mode? Have they got the Hybrid drive gearing problem resolved? Maybe a contingency for them not being able to utilize the Hybrid drive here?




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[joeb]

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Will the GZ09-SH be running in Hybrid mode? Have they got the Hybrid drive gearing problem resolved? Maybe a contingency for them not being able to utilize the Hybrid drive here?




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Does the car have to have all the hybrid bits in it to run legally? I mean if they left out some of them (since it isn't helping performance) and run a traditional setup could they still get the 875 or do they then have a different car and run the normal G-Z weight? I'm sure a G-Z would be much more competitive at a lighter weight!

[HORNDAWG]

Priaulx and J. Müller to join BMW RLR at Petit. Here




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