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Old 14 Jan 2018, 01:38 (Ref:3792598)   #31
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Interesting to see how this translates to the paying punter out there. As is the case with many of these multi configuration circuits, a lot of the circuit mightn't be accessible for viewing. Time will tell.
She's in the middle of a long way from anywhere.. accessibility is a genuine issue..
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Old 15 Jan 2018, 00:58 (Ref:3792779)   #32
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Have booked a nice little houseboat in Murray Bridge for August....

Accommodation in Tailem Bend itself is a bit skinny but there's plenty in Murray Bridge - some over in the wine country at Strathalbyn too.
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Old 15 Jan 2018, 04:01 (Ref:3792805)   #33
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Have booked a nice little houseboat in Murray Bridge for August....

Accommodation in Tailem Bend itself is a bit skinny but there's plenty in Murray Bridge - some over in the wine country at Strathalbyn too.
I might have to go now I know you are going AP.
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Old 15 Jan 2018, 05:04 (Ref:3792809)   #34
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She's in the middle of a long way from anywhere.. accessibility is a genuine issue..
With all due respect, GTR, it's a genuine non-issue.

The Bend is an hour from the middle of Adelaide's CBD, with 90% of that on a 110kph Freeway, on which the circuit is located. It could not be easier to get to from the city, let alone any of the suburbs in the East or foothills. Once you get on Glen Osmond road out of the city you.. drive straight for an hour and reach your destination, on the left.

If an hour from the middle of a city of 1.2 million is 'the middle of a long way from anywhere' then I'd hate to see what Phillip Island or Winton are classified as, because they're two hours out at best (without taking into account any dramas on the Monash or the Hume).

Sydney Motorsport Park is 50 minutes from Sydney airport when traffic is good (so: never) and that's still in the suburbs!

It's 40 minutes from the Adelaide Hills and 20 minutes from a lot of the lower Murraylands, Lake Alexandrina and surrounding tourism regions... it's even 65 minutes to the Barossa Valley if you are so inclined.

Murray Bridge, as others have noted, is 15 minutes away and I bet within two years has a thriving Air BnB market for major events at the Bend, much in the same way much of Bathurst departs each February and October to make some cash out of renting their houses out.

I would argue that 'in the middle of a long way from anywhere' is actually 'located where no one will ever complain about noise, ever' and ideally placed to draw easily from not only the city and the 'burbs but the South East and even Victoria.

At a guess, I would argue that there is a similar amount of accommodation within 30-40 minutes drive of The Bend as there is within the same radius of the Phillip Island GP track.

I just don't get the 'but it's so hard to get to / there's no where to stay' argument that keeps popping up about this place because it's absolutely a non issue.

As for spectating, having seen the place I think it may surprise. There will be some good viewing areas. It'll be Phillip Island like in sight-lines, though you'll be able to see more across the circuit as there's no pit building in the middle.
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Old 15 Jan 2018, 10:07 (Ref:3792852)   #35
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She's in the middle of a long way from anywhere.. accessibility is a genuine issue..
No different to Pukekohe, about an hour to Auckland.
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Old 16 Jan 2018, 00:59 (Ref:3793029)   #36
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Accommodation is more the issue than accessibility.
But as mentioned things will change to suit.
Buying a place out there to AirBnb is already a conversation we've had at home and I bet plenty of others have thought the same.
Apparently Mr Shahin went and bought everything in the real estate windows up that way months ago
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Old 16 Jan 2018, 01:12 (Ref:3793030)   #37
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Accommodation is more the issue than accessibility.
But as mentioned things will change to suit.
Buying a place out there to AirBnb is already a conversation we've had at home and I bet plenty of others have thought the same.
Apparently Mr Shahin went and bought everything in the real estate windows up that way months ago
Part of that may be so he can offer accommodation to competitors and people running events at the circuit.
Richard is right about access to the circuit from Adelaide.It has been a few years since I've been there but couldn't imagine an easier 1 hour drive.
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Old 16 Jan 2018, 02:58 (Ref:3793036)   #38
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Part of that may be so he can offer accommodation to competitors and people running events at the circuit.
Almost certainly the case

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Richard is right about access to the circuit from Adelaide.It has been a few years since I've been there but couldn't imagine an easier 1 hour drive.
Its an easy drive for sure and many wont find it an issue.

Bit different though for the big numbers used to pouring out of Clipsal into the CBD. A lot of the Clipsal clan won't attend the event at Tailem Bend because what are they doing once they walk out the gate?
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With all due respect, GTR, it's a genuine non-issue.

The Bend is an hour from the middle of Adelaide's CBD, with 90% of that on a 110kph Freeway, on which the circuit is located. It could not be easier to get to from the city, let alone any of the suburbs in the East or foothills. Once you get on Glen Osmond road out of the city you.. drive straight for an hour and reach your destination, on the left.

If an hour from the middle of a city of 1.2 million is 'the middle of a long way from anywhere' then I'd hate to see what Phillip Island or Winton are classified as, because they're two hours out at best (without taking into account any dramas on the Monash or the Hume).

Sydney Motorsport Park is 50 minutes from Sydney airport when traffic is good (so: never) and that's still in the suburbs!

It's 40 minutes from the Adelaide Hills and 20 minutes from a lot of the lower Murraylands, Lake Alexandrina and surrounding tourism regions... it's even 65 minutes to the Barossa Valley if you are so inclined.

Murray Bridge, as others have noted, is 15 minutes away and I bet within two years has a thriving Air BnB market for major events at the Bend, much in the same way much of Bathurst departs each February and October to make some cash out of renting their houses out.

I would argue that 'in the middle of a long way from anywhere' is actually 'located where no one will ever complain about noise, ever' and ideally placed to draw easily from not only the city and the 'burbs but the South East and even Victoria.

At a guess, I would argue that there is a similar amount of accommodation within 30-40 minutes drive of The Bend as there is within the same radius of the Phillip Island GP track.

I just don't get the 'but it's so hard to get to / there's no where to stay' argument that keeps popping up about this place because it's absolutely a non issue.

As for spectating, having seen the place I think it may surprise. There will be some good viewing areas. It'll be Phillip Island like in sight-lines, though you'll be able to see more across the circuit as there's no pit building in the middle.
Winton is 2 hours from Melbourne and they don't suffer too much
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Old 16 Jan 2018, 07:42 (Ref:3793053)   #40
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At a guess, I would argue that there is a similar amount of accommodation within 30-40 minutes drive of The Bend as there is within the same radius of the Phillip Island GP track.
I agree Richard, we race at PI every year and I think there is a similar amount of accommodation in that time range, if you include the Victor Harbor/Goolwa area it's also beachfront accommodation just like PI, only a short ferry over the Murray from Wellington and you are there
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With all due respect, GTR, it's a genuine non-issue.
Great post, on FB or speedcafe i would have thrown you a like for it

Thats about how i see it as well. whats that other big track thats a few hours from a major capital (on a worse road) Mt panorama or something similar, it seems to go ok

an enterprising land owner my bring in a toilet bloke and rent tent sights at a few bob each

I went to mallala back in 97, it took much more than an hour up a dirt road to get back to adelaide

Ps only shortened to save space, nothing else
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Accommodation is more the issue than accessibility.
But as mentioned things will change to suit.
Buying a place out there to AirBnb is already a conversation we've had at home and I bet plenty of others have thought the same.
Apparently Mr Shahin went and bought everything in the real estate windows up that way months ago
Please do, so that Easterners can come and stay...I am already planning a visit incl Woodside, Hahndorf, Lobethal, Gumeracha, Victor Harbour, the Clare etc

For the above reasons, I'm thinking that some may consider places within a short drive to the circuit but closer to other attractions
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Old 17 Jan 2018, 05:52 (Ref:3793260)   #43
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275. The fabulous National Motor Museum is in Birdwood - only an hour away.

Put that on your list too!
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Please do, so that Easterners can come and stay...I am already planning a visit incl Woodside, Hahndorf, Lobethal, Gumeracha, Victor Harbour, the Clare etc

For the above reasons, I'm thinking that some may consider places within a short drive to the circuit but closer to other attractions
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She's in the middle of a long way from anywhere.. accessibility is a genuine issue..
It can be accessed easily by the Princes Highway from Adelaide.
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Teams could still stay at the Adelaide Hilton or Adelaide Holiday Inn or whatever if they wanted to, albeit a convenient hotel is provided by the propriators on site IIRC.
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