BTCC 2018 in-season discussion - Page 29

Alfisti · 27 Jul 2018, 17:09 (Ref:3839148)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Selling a TBL can only be done with the administrator's approval, so I wouldn't expect that the organisers would be too impressed with a team just choosing to downsize unless the alternative was even worse.

Compare with HARD - they've had to put a driver in to honour the TBL, and it doesn't seem selling a TBL was an option for them?

Handing back as Jeff Smith had to when Dan Lloyds funding failed to materialise didn't publically upset Mr Gow or TOCA that I'm aware. So that could have been an option. I'm pretty certain TG would have been in the car for Snett if he hadn't been able to get another driver in place in time.

crmalcolm · 27 Jul 2018, 17:19 (Ref:3839151)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

Handing back as Jeff Smith had to when Dan Lloyds funding failed to materialise didn't publically upset Mr Gow or TOCA that I'm aware. So that could have been an option. I'm pretty certain TG would have been in the car for Snett if he hadn't been able to get another driver in place in time.

So Mr Scott in the 3rd Subaru wasn't an option?

medius · 27 Jul 2018, 17:55 (Ref:3839160)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

However the car itself is worthless without a TBL

I could see a weathly gentleman driver be interested for a Levorg for Britcar?

Evantra · 27 Jul 2018, 18:13 (Ref:3839162)

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Originally Posted by medius

I could see a weathly gentleman driver be interested for a Levorg for Britcar?

I could see Gilham being interested given his remarks towards their speed!

Alfisti · 27 Jul 2018, 18:30 (Ref:3839164)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

So Mr Scott in the 3rd Subaru wasn't an option?

Mick Hucknall - assuming I'm not mixing people up again - once sang "Money's too tight (to mention)".

porsche962fan · 27 Jul 2018, 18:43 (Ref:3839169)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

Mick Hucknall - assuming I'm not mixing people up again - once sang "Money's too tight (to mention)".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lqdErI9uss

S griffin · 27 Jul 2018, 23:18 (Ref:3839200)

I wonder what will happen that spare TBL, seen as Mr Scott isn’t really interested in keeping hold of it

peebee2 · 28 Jul 2018, 06:20 (Ref:3839222)

There is no spare TBL. AG has removed one of the loan ones, and will remove the other by the end of the year.

crmalcolm · 28 Jul 2018, 06:25 (Ref:3839224)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

I wonder what will happen that spare TBL, seen as Mr Scott isn’t really interested in keeping hold of it

Which one do you mean? Whether he's interested or not, Mr Scott no longer has it.

BMR now have two only. PMR now one owned one loaned.

One of the two TBLs that are allocated on a loan basis are back with the administrator - so I assume it will be used as seen fit?

Craner Curves · 28 Jul 2018, 07:10 (Ref:3839234)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Which one do you mean? Whether he's interested or not, Mr Scott no longer has it.

BMR now have two only. PMR now one owned one loaned.

One of the two TBLs that are allocated on a loan basis are back with the administrator - so I assume it will be used as seen fit?

Reserved for a manufacturer entry or a guest car as the rules state. I'm sure PMR will have no bother getting another one to buy, we've seen them change hands more than toca would like.

Alfisti · 28 Jul 2018, 10:47 (Ref:3839267)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Reserved for a manufacturer entry or a guest car as the rules state. I'm sure PMR will have no bother getting another one to buy, we've seen them change hands more than toca would like.

I would not be surprised if TG 'right-sized' #HARD to 2 or 3 cars for next year. Which should produce the TBL that PMR would like that allows Mr Gow to retire the loan one.

If BMR does cease in BTCC then we'll potentially be at the "magic 28" 962fan fancies.

porsche962fan · 28 Jul 2018, 14:13 (Ref:3839311)

^ where did I advocate magic 28 ????

medius · 28 Jul 2018, 15:08 (Ref:3839335)

Nuggets of info from Snetterton Qualifying.

Geoff Kingston has left Team HARD.
Swindon Subaru engines have been upgraded and now make the same power as other Swindon power plants.

S griffin · 28 Jul 2018, 15:10 (Ref:3839337)

Not surprised Geoff has left with all the shenanigans going on. Where will he go now, back to Speedworks perhaps?

btccbloke · 28 Jul 2018, 15:41 (Ref:3839353)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Not surprised Geoff has left with all the shenanigans going on. Where will he go now, back to Speedworks perhaps?

depends if Tony is playing the same contract hardball as he did with Jake...

RS67 · 28 Jul 2018, 15:47 (Ref:3839355)

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Originally Posted by peebee2

There is no spare TBL. AG has removed one of the loan ones, and will remove the other by the end of the year.

During qualifying Tim said that the TBL freed up by Price leaving has been sold.

btccbloke · 28 Jul 2018, 16:00 (Ref:3839360)

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Originally Posted by RS67

During qualifying Tim said that the TBL freed up by Price leaving has been sold.

Yes, sold to PMR who have given a "loan" TBL back

Alfisti · 28 Jul 2018, 16:21 (Ref:3839368)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

^ where did I advocate magic 28 ????

Maybe I dreamt it! 🤔

Evantra · 28 Jul 2018, 16:25 (Ref:3839371)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

Maybe I dreamt it! 🤔

Think that was me

Alfisti · 28 Jul 2018, 16:42 (Ref:3839388)

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Originally Posted by medius

Nuggets of info from Snetterton Qualifying.

Geoff Kingston has left Team HARD.
Swindon Subaru engines have been upgraded and now make the same power as other Swindon power plants.

So... did GK quit, or did TG wave him goodbye. Those cars have not materially improved - unless I have rose coloured specs on again - and GKs biggest 'achievement' seems to have involved ****ing some of the drivers off with the infamous 'Tingram won with this' comment.

S griffin · 28 Jul 2018, 17:10 (Ref:3839403)

I have met Geoff and he is genuine nice guy. You say his biggest achievement was helping Tingram? What about helping Colin too at WSR?

btccbloke · 28 Jul 2018, 18:24 (Ref:3839489)

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Originally Posted by Alfisti

So... did GK quit, or did TG wave him goodbye. Those cars have not materially improved - unless I have rose coloured specs on again - and GKs biggest 'achievement' seems to have involved ****ing some of the drivers off with the infamous 'Tingram won with this' comment.

is there a source for that quote or just heresay tho?
and your right if anything the VWs have gone backwards

Jiiiiiiim · 28 Jul 2018, 18:50 (Ref:3839519)

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Originally Posted by btccbloke

is there a source for that quote or just heresay tho?
and your right if anything the VWs have gone backwards

Two of the Team HARD drivers were very vocal about it in the paddock after Donington to a group of us that were chatting to them.

Alfisti · 28 Jul 2018, 19:15 (Ref:3839527)

Precisely as Jim says: one of the drivers in private conversation said it to me probably the same day as said paddock group discussion.

I meant to say GKs biggest achievement at HARD; he clearly has been a significant factor in success at previous teams.

Redshift · 30 Jul 2018, 08:51 (Ref:3840124)

Going back to BMR and Price's departure - It may not have been announced publicly until immediately before the start of the weekend but those who compile the event programme knew he wasn't competing as the BMR listing didn't include him. Looks like some people can keep a secret.

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