Adelaide Street Circuit Plans December 2006

mmciau · 21 Dec 2006, 03:13 (Ref:1796406)

There are plans to revamp the Victoria Park Race Course area to accommodate a new "purpose-built" grand stand and associated works.

Here is the article link in the Adelaide Advertiser

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...006301,00.html

It is hoped that it does proceed and for once, the Major Events Board is able to skim a substantial dividend off the sales of the V8 Tickets to pay for the improvements.

VESA just may have to forgo some of the income generated by the event to pay for it because elsewhere in my view, Sate Governments are far less accommodating.

Mike

Mike

Average Punter · 21 Dec 2006, 03:25 (Ref:1796408)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmciau

VESA just may have to forgo some of the income generated by the event...

Cough
Choke
Splutter

As that bloke said to Leonardo de Caprio on the Titanic;
"Angels will fly out your **** before that happens..."

Trev Campbell · 21 Dec 2006, 04:34 (Ref:1796439)

Mike, this is a great idea and I think might be a revised proposal from what was suggested after the sports car race in 2000, but I just heard on the radio that the opposition and democrates are already slagging it and the residents are complaining about the noise it will create. So all I can see is the wowsers once again stopping any progress in the state.

BJAY · 21 Dec 2006, 04:39 (Ref:1796441)

So does this mean that some of the track situated inside the Horse track will be changed. If so, I don't like the idea. The street circuit is awesome and should not be changed.

Head Rev · 21 Dec 2006, 04:47 (Ref:1796442)

Don't think this has anything to do with VESA!! It's all about the AJC isn't it? On a TV interview the opposition said they supported it (they had been trying for the upgrade when they were in power), but then again they will be swayed by public opinion!

Trev Campbell · 21 Dec 2006, 04:52 (Ref:1796445)

How do you post pictures ???? because I've still got one of the proposed track changes from 2000

garbo6 · 21 Dec 2006, 13:49 (Ref:1796840)

This 'upgrade' does worry me.

For the uninformed the track inside the racecourse is from Turn 10 to Turn 3.

The small mock up images in the Advertiser have the major stand on the outside of the pit straight, and with the facilities being beneath this stand the pitlane would then bo on the outside of the circuit.

The general shape appears to be maintained, however if the track follows the existing racecourse, the turn 10,11 section will be changed and to keep the rest of the track similar, the Senna Chicane would rejoin earlier on Wakefield Straight giving a longer run into Turn 4

I haven't been able to find any official release on the upgrade other than the said Advertiser article.

garbo6 · 21 Dec 2006, 14:19 (Ref:1796858)

Well I finally found the 'Master Plan'
http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/trans...asp#masterplan

The proposed realignment has the track leaving at around the same spot, before going into a vastly different section, before hitting the final hairpin where pitlane entry could prove interesting. Then we go onto the straight which ends with a left hand curve before curving back for the Senna Chicane. The pit lane rejoins in the middle. This certainly could prove interesting, but if made wide enough it could work. Still the track probably would be ruined.

Existing Victoria Park

Proposed Victoria Park

Master Plan looking North

Motorsport Plan

This is the motorsport fact sheet
http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/trans...Sport_Fact.pdf
Page 2 contains the potential track change.

PVDA · 21 Dec 2006, 21:05 (Ref:1797115)

I reckon they should bring back Banana, Stag & Brewery Bends.

Trev Campbell · 21 Dec 2006, 23:46 (Ref:1797235)

Fantastic !!!!!!!!!, Is a fair bit different to the last time they tried to get this off the ground. Hopefully it's successful.

smokinJ · 22 Dec 2006, 00:31 (Ref:1797256)

i don't think the Lib's are against it as i heard Rob Kerrin on the radio say "stop stuffing around and build it" but the local council is against it (of course)

rdmdog · 22 Dec 2006, 02:32 (Ref:1797304)

I read today that in Canberra the proposed new dragstrip has been dumped (was meant to be operational in '07) as it was too noisy/costly. Next page of the paper, the same laBOR ACT Govt have spent $70K on a statue of Al Grasby, a shady creature that is John Stanhope's idol!

Lucky that the same feeling dosent run through the SA Govt, who knows what may be planted instead of spending some dough on??????

Rombles1 · 22 Dec 2006, 13:26 (Ref:1797670)

"The SAMSB has no plans to intensify motorsport activities in Victoria Park".

Pity.

On the motorsport plan, shown in the bottom picture of garbo6's last post, if they could join the track up from where the chicane kinks left, down, parallel with Wakefield St, and join on there where the track re-enters that pic, you would have a very cool, permanent short track. No road closures required to race on it. Obviously you would still use the long circuit for the Clipsal 500. Even if they didn't use the short track for motorsport, I'm sure cyclists would like it, and it could also be used as a much more central location for the annual Pedal Prix, instead of using Murray Bridge. And then once it is built, we just start lobbying like hell to let us race karts there..... then just let us have one round of some other motorsport there per year.... (to start with

)..... c'mon, please?????

Kerri · 22 Dec 2006, 14:22 (Ref:1797715)

Good post Rombles, I agree that we should have something there for the Cyclists, Pedal Prix and Go Karts in SA. VPR would be perfect.

MPA · 23 Dec 2006, 02:03 (Ref:1798067)

It looks good to me.

Just dont mess with turn 8.

garbo6 · 23 Dec 2006, 04:51 (Ref:1798105)

If this plan went through Turn 8 would now be known as Turn 10, which doesn't have quite the same effect. The current Turn 8 will only change if they return to the full F1 track.

Raglanparade · 23 Dec 2006, 05:03 (Ref:1798108)

Id rather see a return to the Full Gp track.

The new circuit looks too tight and twisty to me.

Average Punter · 23 Dec 2006, 10:19 (Ref:1798195)

That's right rp.

Hairpin at the end of Dequetteville Tce, into short straight
Hairpin into small wiggle.
Into hairpin onto Pit Straight.

zac510 · 23 Dec 2006, 11:01 (Ref:1798215)

I see they are cutting down the size of the horse track too. There is a bit that extends down towards Greenhill Road that is not in the new plan.
It also looks like the racecourse section is longer, which is good, it makes the lap longer! although a modern f1 car would probably still lap faster on this than the old circuit.

Raglanparade · 23 Dec 2006, 11:36 (Ref:1798248)

It looks more like a go-kart track then a v8 track.

It would be a joke is this change happened.

zac510 · 23 Dec 2006, 12:56 (Ref:1798285)

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Originally Posted by Raglanparade

It looks more like a go-kart track then a v8 track.

It would be a joke is this change happened.

Upon what evidence do you base this claim?

racer69 · 23 Dec 2006, 16:30 (Ref:1798361)

The bit towards the end of the lap looks abit mickey mouse, but no worse in some ways than it is now/has been since 1985. The lead up to the chicane could be quite good.

I say do it, if it wasn't for the history of the layout (ie...if it hadn't been around for more than 20 years), it would have a 'paperclip' reputation these days......

zac510 · 23 Dec 2006, 17:17 (Ref:1798393)

Yeah I'd agree with that. But permanent pit buildings and so forth are a huge plus. If only you could agree to get FIAGT/ALMS or an international back in there.

mmciau · 23 Dec 2006, 20:04 (Ref:1798449)

Quote:

Originally Posted by zac510

Yeah I'd agree with that. But permanent pit buildings and so forth are a huge plus. If only you could agree to get FIAGT/ALMS or an international back in there.

That just might be the thinking behind it!!

If the promoter is not subjected to "huge" construct/dismantle costs that the "temporary" circuit is faced with each year, it means "more" cash to intice BE and our beloved TC to get!!!!

Big Red would be worried if Adelaide gets a "permanent pit row" because Mr Bracks would have to continue to cough up for Albert Park's annual build.

Mike

MPA · 23 Dec 2006, 23:20 (Ref:1798523)

Quote:

Originally Posted by racer69

The bit towards the end of the lap looks abit mickey mouse, but no worse in some ways than it is now/has been since 1985.

I thought our V8 driver liked stop go mickey mouse tracks. Ingall gave PI a big spray recently because the corners were too flowing and suited bikes better than cars. Perhaps big corners suit drivers with big balls.

Slower corner speeds makes it safer to punt the guy in front of you out of the way. This should make for better racing and great TV.

Perhaps we could rename the Adelaide street circuit, Winton by the Sea.

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