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Old 19 Jun 2019, 22:43 (Ref:3912992)   #401
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The commentators (mainly Skaife) will contradict the DSO though, which is strange given the above comments, not to mention quite damaging from a "PR" point of view.

Maybe it's more a personal issue/lack of tact on Mark's behalf?
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 04:26 (Ref:3913010)   #402
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Well aware the commentary team toe the line.
Never a good thing but no surprises.

I guess I missed the topic being brought up at the desk.
They can't have had much to say. You would have thought the topic was more than worthy of discussion.
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Old 20 Jun 2019, 04:42 (Ref:3913015)   #403
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Well aware the commentary team toe the line.
Never a good thing but no surprises.

I guess I missed the topic being brought up at the desk.
They can't have had much to say. You would have thought the topic was more than worthy of discussion.
yes it was very brief....Like "Its going to be sunny today"
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Old 21 Jun 2019, 01:30 (Ref:3913213)   #404
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thanks mate, gave me a laugh that did
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Old 7 Jul 2019, 23:03 (Ref:3916416)   #405
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Supercars won't stop until holden are winning.

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Supercars won't stop until holden are winning.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/07/08...s-for-ipswich/
Think that you need to re-read the entire article again, not just the headline and first one or two paragraphs - particularly this part with the key statement bolded by me:
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“The Commission approved the change following further work into the positioning of ballast through a more refined process using CAD,” said Supercars Head of Motorsport Adrian Burgess.
“With some teams not returning to their base between Darwin and Townsville, we decided to implement the change for Ipswich after all teams have had time in their own race shops.
The repositioning maintains the current CoG balance between all makes and has an equal effect on performance for all.”
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Old 7 Jul 2019, 23:36 (Ref:3916418)   #407
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Supercars won't stop until holden are winning.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/07/08...s-for-ipswich/
Read the article before you embarrass yourself further.
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Old 8 Jul 2019, 01:13 (Ref:3916419)   #408
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Didn't Holden get a pole and a win on the weekend?
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Old 8 Jul 2019, 01:41 (Ref:3916421)   #409
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Didn't Holden get a pole and a win on the weekend?
What does that have to do with this? They aren't making any relative adjustments to performance.
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Old 8 Jul 2019, 02:35 (Ref:3916432)   #410
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Read the article before you embarrass yourself further.
Given that the holden is now up there with the mustang where is the necessity for

"composite parts will be replaced by steel roof beams in the Mustang."

Read everything before you make fools of yourselves
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Old 8 Jul 2019, 02:37 (Ref:3916433)   #411
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Given that the holden is now up there with the mustang where is the necessity for

"composite parts will be replaced by steel roof beams in the Mustang."

Read everything before you make fools of yourselves
Sigh, the steel roof beams replaces the lead that is currently hose clamped to the roll bars AFTER 9kg has been removed in-line with the 6.8kg being removed from the ZB.

THERE IS NO RELATIVE COG CHANGE BETWEEN CARS.
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Sigh, the steel roof beams replaces the lead that is currently hose clamped to the roll bars AFTER 9kg has been removed in-line with the 6.8kg being removed from the ZB.

THERE IS NO RELATIVE COG CHANGE BETWEEN CARS.
Then why change???
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Old 8 Jul 2019, 03:00 (Ref:3916437)   #413
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Then why change???
Presumably because they wanted to have the least amount of additional weight in the top of the cars and having lead strapped to the inside of the cabin roll cage with hose clamps was not the long term solution they wanted.

This tidies it up for everyone and is safer.
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Presumably because they wanted to have the least amount of additional weight in the top of the cars and having lead strapped to the inside of the cabin roll cage with hose clamps was not the long term solution they wanted.

This tidies it up for everyone and is safer.
I reckon you're right on the money there - a permanent CAD-based solution to replace the original short-term solution. No change to differentiation between the brands.

Nothing to see here.........other than the complete initial over-reaction of course.
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Old 8 Jul 2019, 04:46 (Ref:3916445)   #415
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Supercars won't stop until holden are winning.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/07/08...s-for-ipswich/
But they did win
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Then why change???
It's pretty obvious!! This is safer.
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Old 8 Jul 2019, 06:58 (Ref:3916456)   #417
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What does that have to do with this? They aren't making any relative adjustments to performance.
Please, don't shoot.
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Old 8 Jul 2019, 08:08 (Ref:3916462)   #418
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It's pretty obvious!! This is safer.
So something unsafe was implemented? For shame
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But they did win
Exactly, and if wasn't for the fact that DJR/TP weren't the best team with the best driver holden would have won more, but supercars will keep chipping away at the mustangs.
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Exactly, and if wasn't for the fact that DJR/TP weren't the best team with the best driver holden would have won more, but supercars will keep chipping away at the mustangs.
But they aren't at this stage, are they? Knickers been twisted substantially here for no reason whatsoever.
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Old 9 Jul 2019, 04:28 (Ref:3916622)   #421
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The article says that "The latest tweaks sees all the ballast removed from Holden while 9kg of ballast will be removed from the roof and composite parts will be replaced by steel roof beams in the Mustang." Is this just poor writing or what?

If this Is true, the Mustang Is still being penalized.
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Old 9 Jul 2019, 04:39 (Ref:3916623)   #422
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w"ith the 6.8kg of ballast removed from the roof of the Commodore and nine of the 28kg taken away from the Mustang.

The Mustang will run steel beams in place of the 9kg of removed ballast."

6.8 removed from commo

9 removed from the funny car

9 put back in a different (lower) spot on funny car
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So, take All from the commo And Nothing from the Mustang.
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w"ith the 6.8kg of ballast removed from the roof of the Commodore and nine of the 28kg taken away from the Mustang.

The Mustang will run steel beams in place of the 9kg of removed ballast."

6.8 removed from commo

9 removed from the funny car

9 put back in a different (lower) spot on funny car
where did your last quote come from? I've not read that anywhere and it wouldn't make sense if there is no cog tweak taking place between the different cars as stated in the supercars article.

The ZB loses 6.8,the mustang loses 9 with the remaining weight converted into steel in the roof and maintains the current CoG parity between makes.

To quote the supercars article:

“The repositioning maintains the current CoG balance between all makes and has an equal effect on performance for all.”

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Old 9 Jul 2019, 20:17 (Ref:3916740)   #425
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https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/07/09...mart-decision/

Definitely some poor writing involved, almost implies there WAS a CoG differential change... actually, I'm still not sure...

Is there a Supercars press/technical release? Would be much clearer and more technical than the above rubbish

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