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Old 8 Apr 2001, 19:12 (Ref:78675)   #1
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Ok guys and gals your opinions please... Who do you see as the all time great driver(s) and who are the three most talented drivers currently in F1.

All time greats - 1. Senna
2. Fangio
3. Prost

This year - 1. M. Schumacher
2. Montoya
3. Villenueve

Let the sparks fly!!
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Old 8 Apr 2001, 19:18 (Ref:78679)   #2
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For all-time greats, I can't say because I haven't seen all the greats race.

And for the three most talented, it's difficult to say because of the differences in their cars and their experience.
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Old 8 Apr 2001, 19:28 (Ref:78686)   #3
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C'mon, RG, you can be a little bolder than that...

I'll stick my neck out anyway, and answer this.

All time greats:
1. Clark
1. Senna
3. Fangio

This year:
1. Montoya
2. M. Schumacher
3. Villeneuve
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Old 8 Apr 2001, 19:43 (Ref:78693)   #4
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1. Tazio Nuvolari
2. Ayrton Senna
3. Jim Clark

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1. Juan Pablo Montoya
2. Michael Schumacher
3. Olivier Panis
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Old 8 Apr 2001, 20:20 (Ref:78699)   #5
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All time greats? I too would find it hard to answer as I haven't seen even Senna race.

My top 3 in 2001:
1. M Schumacher
2. Frentzen
3. Montoya

3 most IMPRESSIVE in 2001:
1. Kimi Raikkonen
2. Fernando Alonso
3. Nick Heidfeld

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Old 8 Apr 2001, 20:37 (Ref:78704)   #6
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C'mon, RG, you can be a little bolder than that...
Okay then...I'm still leaving out the top 3 ever because I can't judge if I haven't seen all the greats race.

My top 3 of 2001...so far:

1. Raikkonen - for proving he deserves a superlicence)
2. Montoya - for overtaking TGF in his third race (no offence to you, Mr Button, but you never did that last year)
3. Heidfeld - hell, he got on the podium! He deserves a payrise for that!

And I would put Ralf or Alonso in fourth. I'm pointedly leaving out TGF because he is just too boring for words. Oh, and:

22. Rubens Barrichello

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Old 8 Apr 2001, 21:08 (Ref:78715)   #7
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2. Montoya - for overtaking TGF in his third race (no
Absolutley, 2002 Champ you mark my words

Minardi fan, what do you mean you have never seen Senna race, don't yer have telly or somthing!!

Get some footage of Donington 1993 and watch the master at work.
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Old 8 Apr 2001, 21:54 (Ref:78732)   #8
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All I have seen of Senna is the moments before his tragic accident and his stunning overtaking at Donington '93.
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Old 8 Apr 2001, 22:24 (Ref:78748)   #9
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I think I will agree with R

All time greats:
1. Clark
1. Senna
3. Fangio

This year:
1. Villeneuve
2. Montoya
4. M. Schumacher

Although credit should be given to Moss, Hawthorn, Rindt Ickx and Ascari.

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Old 8 Apr 2001, 23:10 (Ref:78767)   #10
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All time greats:

1. A. Senna da Silva
2. J. M. Fangio
3. Jim Clark


2001 top three:

1. TGF
2. Montoya
3. Alesi
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Old 9 Apr 2001, 01:28 (Ref:78786)   #11
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Tough one, umm:

1. Fangio
2. Senna
3. Clark / Stewart

Almost in : Prost (wet weather?), Moss (unfortunate place in time), Brabham(3 WDC including one in his own car - do that Shumi )

1. TGF
2. Montoya
3. Ralf

Almost in : Alesi, Jacques (when he wants to)
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Old 9 Apr 2001, 04:00 (Ref:78810)   #12
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1. Senna
2. Gilles Villeneuve
3. Fangio/Clark

1. Montoya
2. Raikkonnen
3. Heidfeld

I went with the youngsters, instead of the old guard. New talent, as opposed to old.
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Old 9 Apr 2001, 07:17 (Ref:78827)   #13
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All times:
1 Senna
2 Gilles
3 Prost

This year

1 Juan Montoya
2 Heins Harry Frenzy
3 Ralf

Question : Why Villeneuve (what has he done this year...?)
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Old 9 Apr 2001, 07:37 (Ref:78829)   #14
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All time greats:

1. A. Senna da Silva
2. J. M. Fangio
3. Jim Clark

Special mentions Gilles Villeneuve and Stirling Moss (no championships between them but deserved more than a lot of the ones who have won it).


2001 top three:

1. TGF
2. Montoya
3. Coulthard
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Old 9 Apr 2001, 10:07 (Ref:78849)   #15
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I can only chose from when I started watching motor racing:

all (my time):

1. Ayrton Senna
2. Gilles Villeneuve
3. Nikki Lauda

Current:

1. JP Montoya
2. Michael Schumacher
3. Jacques Villeneuve

How about a list of drivers that you hoped would become champion. I loved Elio de Angelis.
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Old 9 Apr 2001, 10:15 (Ref:78854)   #16
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All time greats:
1.Steve McQueen
2.Sandra Bullock
3.Evil Knieval

Current:
1.The TNT guy who delivers my wine order,
2.Sam the paper delivery man
3. The fellow who drives the Cleanways rubbish collection truck who nearly cleaned me up at the roundabout.
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Old 9 Apr 2001, 10:42 (Ref:78860)   #17
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Old 9 Apr 2001, 12:39 (Ref:78905)   #18
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That's easy...the greatest 3 talents in 2001 are

1) Michael Schumacher
2) Juan Pablo Montoya
3) Nick Heidfeld
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Old 9 Apr 2001, 13:11 (Ref:78912)   #19
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the greatest three talents this year are
1. Ralf Schumacher
2. Kimi Raikkonen
3. Juan Pablo Montoya (though i hate to say it!!!!!)

Nick Heidfeld and Fernando Alonso also deserve a mention!
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Old 9 Apr 2001, 18:08 (Ref:79003)   #20
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2001 top three:

1. TGF
2. Montoya
3. Alesi
Alesi?! One win in a 12 season career, some of which have been spent in genuinley quick cars. He only has a drive this year cos he's mates with prost.
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Old 9 Apr 2001, 23:58 (Ref:79113)   #21
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Damon...leave me my opinion. But anyway I think you don't know much about Alesi if you think he only got this seat for he's a mate of Prost. He's one of the greatest drivers I've ever seen and there were other discussions about this before. It's interesting that this year the discussions come up wether Alesi was ever great or not...and probably this is because the F1 fans who now are teenagers did never see him race with better cars.
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Old 10 Apr 2001, 10:03 (Ref:79178)   #22
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Yeah....Jean is a really excellent driver...awesome and aggresive...but had a relatively unlucky career...and despite age isnt on his side anymore, he is still doing an awfully cool job!
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Old 10 Apr 2001, 10:41 (Ref:79188)   #23
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Alesi was regarded in the early 90s as high as today are Ralf Schumacher and Montoya. The passing maneuvre he made on Senna in Phoenix in 1990 was as good as the one Montoya made on TGF in Brazil.

He would have been a contender for the championship if he had gone to Williams instead of Ferrari which was then a hopeless team. He choose with his heart instead of his head and he wasted his entire F1 career.
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Old 10 Apr 2001, 10:57 (Ref:79199)   #24
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How to chose three all time greats. I agree completely with the posts above about Alesi. He is a class act. Carraciola, Nuvolari, Varzi, Chiron, Rosemeyer, Fangio, Farina, Ascari, Moss, Wimille, Clark, Stewart, Surtees, Hill(G), Gurney, Amon, Andretti, Lauda, Cevert, Moll, Peterson, Villeneuve(G), Brabham, Prost, Fittipaldi, Piquet, Mansell, Senna, Alesi, Schumacher(M), Hakkinen. How can I chose 3 from that lot?
This season - Schumacher(M), Montoya, Coulthard. So far.
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Old 10 Apr 2001, 17:30 (Ref:79272)   #25
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Stick Jean in 'today's' Ferrari and he would do a better job than Barrichello and Irvine. Very exciting driver.
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