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to give an immediate black flag to anyone that even has the very slightest touch another car, without even investigating the reason behind it is just pure nonsense all that would happen is that the car in front would brake a little bit early to create a tiny bit of contact and have his competitor black flagged! Last edited by touring fan01; 9 Apr 2019 at 11:20. |
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aint going to happen. Carry on discussing all the various scenarios as much as you want though!
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Tim said that Team Parker now has the same engine as WSR and seems it completely transformed their fortune
which begs the qustion why the heck didn't they have them last year ? |
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I think that you miss the point.
If you are following a car as closely as they do in the BTCC, it would be impossible to pass the car in front through the corner. You don't need to be that close to gain a slip-streaming advantage. Also, it would also be very easy for Race Control to have real-time data-logging and telemetry available so that they can determine whether an error was made by the car in front. |
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Team error as well, Motorbase should have told TC to give the place back, the team has the advantage of the TV coverage to see the 'incident' from the outside and advise the driver if it is or maybe outside the rules. |
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[QUOTE=touring fan01;3896397]seriously?!
so if for example a car in front misses a gear which caused the car to momentarily hesitate and the car right behind tapping him through no fault of his own...your system would black flag that innocent driver immediately! Sequential gearboxes dont miss gears |
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but if they did then to do what you propose you would need 30 people in race control (one per car) or lets say just 15 people to constantly monitor every input from 30 cars and compare them from each corner of each lap from the laps previously to see if anything is going on? you really havent thought this through have you. |
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9 Apr 2019, 12:25 (Ref:3896417) | #288 | |
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Tell that to Guy Martin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjZXaUwYoog Unlikely to cause a big problem in BTCC anyway, the instances of someone getting a missed gear, then being punted and the driver behind getting an advantage must be few and far between. |
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I got the impression from what I heard on the TV commentary on Sunday, and what I'd read since then, that the rules relating to 'push to pass' had been revised for this year, or at least it had been made perfectly clear to the drivers at the meeting that they would be enforced more strongly this year. |
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9 Apr 2019, 14:15 (Ref:3896430) | #291 | |
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If the argument against Mike Hartes point is "What about misfires!?" then I think it's pretty say to say Mike has a very good point.
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lol no it doesn't. The misfire and missed gear argument is such an edge case that's silly.
I'm not 100% sure I agree with Mike, but I don't have any logical reasons why I don't, and I certainly don't agree with misfires and missed gear stuff. |
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If one sits back for a moment and thinks about it logically, then there can be no reason why a following car needs to be as close as 2.54 cms (1 inch in old money) behind the car in front unless it is to destabilise it by giving it a "kiss".
The driver at the back can't go over or under the car in front, nor can it even attempt to go left or right to pass without touching the car in front at some point. In fact, for the very reason that the following driver has effectively boxed him/herself in, it means that the driver in front can actually afford to slow down fractionally. I don't see the point of it. |
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Well if we over policed we end up getting processional racing
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Touching is damned useful for drafting, especially on a straight, but is likely to bring tears before bedtime on twisty bits. P.S. I am the sort of bar steward who takes an especially dim view of it on public roads. |
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9 Apr 2019, 19:36 (Ref:3896479) | #299 | |
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can this pointless discussion finally die ? specially when Chilton himself let it go
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Well we could get back to Sams TBL....
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