2016 Nurburgring 24 Hours

[rich07]

Originally Posted by Miguel

Finally got done with my report of the race. Also includes photos and interviews: http://www.gt-report.com/2016/06/02/in-a-heartbeat/ Hope y'all like it!

Oh and regarding the BoP, Frikadelli has also been crying again. It's getting a bit old.

Love your work Miguel

Re: Frikadelli complaining about the bop again, was that post race?

[Akrapovic]

Oh, and the Nissan also won the Blancpain Endurance Series last season. Was on pole at Silverstone as well. Are we really saying that that car is so much worse this year? Or was ADACs BoP just not as kind to them as Mercedes?

[carbon_titanium]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Oh, and the Nissan also won the Blancpain Endurance Series last season. Was on pole at Silverstone as well. Are we really saying that that car is so much worse this year? Or was ADACs BoP just not as kind to them as Mercedes?

unlikely the car is worse than last year, also because it should the same 2014 homologation specs (correct me if am I wrong). I think that cars like nissan gt-r, bentley or vantage gt3, because of their size, weight distribution (>50% on front) and bop min. weight, always close if not over 1300kg; won't never be as quick as r8, 458/488, huracan in corners.
Of course this is not always true, as shown by amg gt3 at N24H.

[JFinken]

Originally Posted by carbon_titanium

unlikely the car is worse than last year, also because it should the same 2014 homologation specs (correct me if am I wrong). I think that cars like nissan gt-r, bentley or vantage gt3, because of their size, weight distribution (>50% on front) and bop min. weight, always close if not over 1300kg; won't never be as quick as r8, 458/488, huracan in corners.
Of course this is not always true, as shown by amg gt3 at N24H.

If we compare the results from Blancpain Endurance series at Monza as an example, the top 8 manufacturers fastest laptimes are within 0,5 seconds.

http://www.blancpain-gt-series.com/r...er_race_id=414

At Nurburgring, the best laptimes from the top 6 manufacturers are quite different, with AMG and BMW being close to equal, but Porsche, Audi, Bentley and Nissan being several seconds off the pace. It´s a long track of course, but it should have been closer.

http://24hrennenassets.azureedge.net/wp-media/2016/05/24h_Rennen_Result_Official.pdf

Considering these are the top teams of each manufacturers with their best drivers, it seem to me the ADAC BOP doesnt work as well as with SRO/Blancpain.

[Beryl]

Fastest laps by SP9 manufacturer:
Mercedes-AMG: 8'19.0
BMW: 8'19.5
Porsche: 8'20.3
Audi: 8'20.7
Bentley: 8'24.3
Aston Martin: 8'26.2 (both cars retired early)
Lamborghini: 8'27.8 (very much a private effort)
Nissan: 8'34.8

The audi race experience gentlemen posted a faster lap than Nissan's best. Something is amiss, likely horrendous BoP.

[Mitchi_S]

Originally Posted by Matt

That car may be losing it's GT3 homologation.

Why is that?

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Mitchi_S

Why is that?

GM isn't selling it. A few teams from Europe have inquired about buying them and GM has told them they aren't building any more and they're not selling the current cars.

It won't matter to them if they lose the homologation or not because this is also most likely the last year they'll be running it before focusing on IMSA Prototype competition next year.

[Rodger Davies]

Will be a big loss to PWC; I assumed they just were letting it lapse as WC would let them run it anyway.

Such a shame that it's there, homologated, has interested customers and still GM won't sell them. Utter waste.

[Mike Hedlund]

Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Will be a big loss to PWC; I assumed they just were letting it lapse as WC would let them run it anyway.

Such a shame that it's there, homologated, has interested customers and still GM won't sell them. Utter waste.

I don't think it was ever officially homologated. They brought it to the tests and were denied because it was basically a GTE car.

-mike

[Mitchi_S]

Originally Posted by Matt

GM isn't selling it. A few teams from Europe have inquired about buying them and GM has told them they aren't building any more and they're not selling the current cars.

It won't matter to them if they lose the homologation or not because this is also most likely the last year they'll be running it before focusing on IMSA Prototype competition next year.

Ah that makes sense. But losing the homologation would take some time (couple of years), wouldn't it?

[Matt]

It got a homologation number in August of last year.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Mitchi_S

Ah that makes sense. But losing the homologation would take some time (couple of years), wouldn't it?

No like, it's number would be pulled.

[Mitchi_S]

Ah okay, got it.

[Coach Ep]

I'm sure PWC will let the Caddies continue if GM desires to keep them running - just see the paycheck as the homologation for the cars!

[Mitchi_S]

Originally Posted by Mike Hedlund

I don't think it was ever officially homologated. They brought it to the tests and were denied because it was basically a GTE car.

-mike

Wait, as in the typical Paul Ricard test?

[Miguel]

From the FIA's list of homologated cars:

> Cadillac
GT3 039 ATS-V.R GT3 Début d'Homol. 01.08.2015 Fin : 2022
01.08.2015 INFO INFO COMPLEMENTAIRE / COMPLEMENTARIE INFORMATION
01.09.2015 01/01 ER HABITACLE / COCKPIT
01.04.2016 02/02 ER MOTEUR / ENGINE

[Miguel]

Here's my (our) full gallery of the N24: http://www.gt-report.com/2016/06/12/...artbeat-pt-ii/