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Old 31 Dec 2018, 15:17 (Ref:3873313)   #151
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What baffles me (as well as the rest of it) is where all this extra freight is coming from. We will not be suddenly importing or exporting hugely increased volumes because there is no deal. The more likely scenario is that customs delays will create lengthy queues on both sides of the channel, and no amount of extra space on boats is going to address that.
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Old 31 Dec 2018, 15:24 (Ref:3873314)   #152
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What baffles me (as well as the rest of it) is where all this extra freight is coming from. We will not be suddenly importing or exporting hugely increased volumes because there is no deal. The more likely scenario is that customs delays will create lengthy queues on both sides of the channel, and no amount of extra space on boats is going to address that.

I believe that the thinking behind the idea is that by spreading the movement (i.e. spreading the misery!) amongst more ports that it will stop - or possibly lessen - any potential bottlenecks at Dover and Calais.

I sort of understand the reasoning, and if contingency planning hadn't been put in place, the government would have received yet another kicking for not thinking ahead!
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Old 31 Dec 2018, 15:50 (Ref:3873319)   #153
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Grant, think the idea is to take some traffic away from the Dover Calais crossing. Hence resurrected route between Ramsgate and Ostend, plus extra ferries from Portsmouth to Le Havre, Plymouth to somewhere, East coast to Netherlands or further North.....

What seems incredible to me is that the 3 companies that have been awarded contracts (not put out to tender, apparently) will get paid even if the new services are not needed at the end of March....
Maybe we could have Folkestone-Boulogne back where we booked on and cleared customs in an old cattle shed.
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Old 31 Dec 2018, 16:02 (Ref:3873324)   #154
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What baffles me (as well as the rest of it) is where all this extra freight is coming from. We will not be suddenly importing or exporting hugely increased volumes because there is no deal. The more likely scenario is that customs delays will create lengthy queues on both sides of the channel, and no amount of extra space on boats is going to address that.
The more ships floating about the Channel means the chances of illegal immigrants in rubber boats of making it across to England should be severely reduced

Sense at last from the Government.
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Old 31 Dec 2018, 16:22 (Ref:3873327)   #155
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The more ships floating about the Channel means the chances of illegal immigrants in rubber boats of making it across to England should be severely reduced

Sense at last from the Government.
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I believe that the thinking behind the idea is that by spreading the movement (i.e. spreading the misery!) amongst more ports that it will stop - or possibly lessen - any potential bottlenecks at Dover and Calais.

I sort of understand the reasoning, and if contingency planning hadn't been put in place, the government would have received yet another kicking for not thinking ahead!
Yes of course, but maybe if this had been laid out in a planning document 13 months ago we would

a) have had a better hand in negotiations with the EU and

b) convinced us, the electorate, that they weren't just making it up as they went along



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DFDS were offering attractive prices for freight bookings on their little known Newhaven-Dieppe service in 2017, but for me, the road route to Newhaven was reason enough not to take them up on the offer! Maybe in 2019 the crossing will be of interest to more people....

I see that Britney are also supposed to be adding extra crossings from Poole to Cherbourg as part of the government deal. Most of my journeys involve Portsmouth, so Iím just hoping that the port doesnít get messed up. It already struggles if more than one boat is unloading at the same time!
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I wonder how many gubbernment officials are on the board of Seabourne, or am I being a tad cynical?

Why don't you find out ? In the meantime, be a good chap and spare us the sub Daily Express speculation will you ?
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Should there be a decision to have a second referendum on leaving the EU, I wonder how many people on both sides of the argument would vote now.

Would the protracted, and 'nebulous' negotiations persuade Leavers to change their mind? Would the cavalier attitude of the EU Bureaucracy cause a change of heart in Remainers?


Would the Sunny Uplands look different to either side of the argument/ Brighter than the Remainers thought or cloudier than the Leavers hoped.

I doubt a second go would settle matters either way, and personally think it a betrayal of democracy, but it makes one think. Well it does me, and I would still vote Leave.

Well it is 2019, and we need to keep the discussion going.
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The Government has claimed to have done 'due diligence' on Seabourne and are satisfied that they have the expertise, resources, and personal to do the job. We can only hope.
Apparently owned by a relative of a tory MP so there's nothing to worry about!!
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I sadly suspect you are correct.

Edit: Checked and can find nobody I recognise. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10709921

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I sadly suspect you are correct.

Edit: Checked and can find nobody I recognise. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10709921
Shame, sounded like a good story.

Similarly the one I heard yesterday about Mr Farage's application for German nationality being turned down, but his children got it so they will be able to get away from him easier!
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The biggest reason brexiteers don't want a second vote of any nature is their majority is dead. Hundreds of thousands of over 70's a year pushing up daisies. Whilst the number of young people Now eligible to vote has gone up in similar numbers, 75% of them remainers. Even my sons school class at the age of 11 voted 90% remain (a few of them had fingers in noses and didn't put their hand up)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8541971.html


I think we're all agreed it's the most divicisive thing to happen In all our lifetimes and goes well beyond party politics ( red and blue are equally inept at this )

I don't believe a second vote is a betrayal of democracy, that's just a few papers bleating at you. Plenty of civilised nations have done it, successfully. A no deal is a constitutional change surely? Therefore should it not have a super majority?

Either way we were all lied to and no one quite knew what was genuinely on offer. We are now being taken down a dark alley by an unelected careerist turncoat. As long as several million people continue to be hoodwinked by daily rags which are little more than funded fascist propaganda, the future remains extremely uncertain.



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Should there be a decision to have a second referendum on leaving the EU, I wonder how many people on both sides of the argument would vote now.

Would the protracted, and 'nebulous' negotiations persuade Leavers to change their mind? Would the cavalier attitude of the EU Bureaucracy cause a change of heart in Remainers?


Would the Sunny Uplands look different to either side of the argument/ Brighter than the Remainers thought or cloudier than the Leavers hoped.

I doubt a second go would settle matters either way, and personally think it a betrayal of democracy, but it makes one think. Well it does me, and I would still vote Leave.

Well it is 2019, and we need to keep the discussion going.
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That's the best news I've heard so far today. What's the chances of his British passport getting cancelled too?


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This 'young v old' theme keeps cropping up every now and then and like a lot of the on-going Brexit debate isn't exactly illuminating of the issues. Perhaps more of the young people now up in arms about Brexit should have bothered to vote. Quoting from the above article:

'YouGov found that young people who did not vote in the 2016 referendum are particularly supportive of calls for another poll.

Among under-25s who did not vote in 2016 but would be certain to do so in a new referendum, 82 per cent said they would back Remain'.


So perhaps they should have voted in the first place.
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