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Old 22 Sep 2004, 08:07 (Ref:1103564)   #1
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Team Dynamik Appeal

I may be wrong on this one, but wasnt there an appeal brought on by Team Dynamik against the CAMS decision set for the Thursday after Sandown???


Any results or ideas whats going on ??
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Old 22 Sep 2004, 08:15 (Ref:1103570)   #2
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And also TEGA also appealed the dissision and asked for it to be a bit harsher. They thought the fines were to leaniant.
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Old 22 Sep 2004, 08:17 (Ref:1103572)   #3
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yeah i knew that one, but surely the appeals should be heard before bathurst, for any type of continuity...
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Old 22 Sep 2004, 10:01 (Ref:1103643)   #4
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The appeal is being heard on Thursday 23rd September. Apparently Team DODO wanted more time to get their evidence sorted out. Go figure.
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Old 22 Sep 2004, 10:04 (Ref:1103646)   #5
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more rocket testing :P

thats tomorrow, now which appeal is it, DN vs cams or tega va cams ?
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Old 24 Sep 2004, 03:16 (Ref:1105591)   #6
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quote from racenews release....

"The V8 Supercar National Court of Appeal will convene at 9am Wednesday

29 September 2004, at the Confederation of Australian Motor Sport's National Office in Melbourne.



The Court will hear appeals lodged by Team Dynamik and TEGA (Touringcar Entrants Group Australia), with regard to the Stewards' findings handed down on 11 September 2004 at round nine of the V8 Supercar Championship Series held at Sandown International Motor Raceway."
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Old 29 Sep 2004, 05:46 (Ref:1110013)   #7
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Old 29 Sep 2004, 06:03 (Ref:1110020)   #8
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Still going, next update before 5 apparantly.
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Old 29 Sep 2004, 07:02 (Ref:1110052)   #9
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http://www.cams.com.au/content.asp?P...e&ObjectID=448
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29 Sep 2004

The V8 Supercar National Court of Appeal has adjourned this afternoon to consider evidence with regard to today’s Team Dynamik and TEGA appeals. The Court will hand down its findings at a later date, still to be advised.

The Court convened at 9am this morning at the Confederation of Australian Motor Sport’s National Office in Melbourne to hear appeals lodged by Team Dynamik and TEGA (Touringcar Entrants Group Australia), with regard to the Stewards’ findings handed down on 11 September 2004 at round nine of the V8 Supercar Championship Series held at Sandown International Motor Raceway.

The Stewards’ found V8 Supercar entrant Team Dynamik in breach of a number of regulations relating to V8 Supercar testing as set out in the 2004 AVESCO Operations Manual. The Stewards imposed a penalty of:
- $50,000 USD (approximately $72,000 AUD, maximum permitted by the Stewards under the International Sporting Code) for breach of Rule D1, unauthorised testing;
- $15,000 AUD for breach of Rule C13.10.2, control tyres;
- $15,000 AUD for breach of Rule C14.11.2, sensors; and
- $2,000 AUD for breach of Rule E6 (transporter identification).

The V8 Supercar National Court of Appeal was chaired by Mr Lex Lasry QC and assisted by Mr Desmond Ryan and Mr Peter Wollerman.
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So can someone tell me why the fines and breach sections being recited at every opportunity?

Its not a Kelvin-esque way of trying to influence the passive reader into thinking a party is guilty even though the results remain subject to appeal?

Didnt some European fellow in the last century subscribe to a similar management theory... repeat something often enough, and people will eventually believe it is true.....
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Old 29 Sep 2004, 12:36 (Ref:1110281)   #11
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Does anyone know how many Civil court & CAMS court actions are pending at the moment ?
Must be quite a few.
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Old 29 Sep 2004, 12:42 (Ref:1110287)   #12
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Four of significance... (that I remember anyway)

- The Kees Weel/Bob Forbes/John Faulkner "who owns the franchise, who pays the fine" chocolate wheel
- The Team Dynamik original injunction request is still technically open, and the team can (and likely will) return for relief
- The Morris L2 vs L1 case (currently in mediation)
- The original Chinese promoter vs AVESCO for breach of contract over the 2004 China round

For such a relatively small organisation (i.e. turnover under $100m per annum) legal costs must be a killer....
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Old 29 Sep 2004, 12:49 (Ref:1110298)   #13
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Don't forget the -
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sheesh , i didnt realise all of this was going on , must be more suits running around than ever.

the next big will be TC v The rest of the world
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Actually there are a couple of people looking at their options for breaches of contract, and there may be more coming up...
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