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Old 19 Apr 2021, 11:37 (Ref:4046686)   #7951
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Let’s just hope the new regulations introduced have learned from previous mistakes
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Old 20 Apr 2021, 17:46 (Ref:4046922)   #7952
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That is correct to a point - but the main reason things were to be slowed was if I recall correctly when Aston Martin wanted to join with a road car based project they insisted that the minimum weight was increased. This was before convegence was a thing as the ACO at that point wanted to go it alone.

What that guy said, extra weight meant extra power and screwed Jim's first planned engine. Although the new one isn't bad having an Alfa badge back would have been cooler.

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If only someone had written this all down while it was happening...
What, you mean the stream of (semi)consciousness that is Tenths doesn't count as a written record??
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Old 21 Apr 2021, 09:49 (Ref:4047038)   #7953
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I don't understand the ACO's obsession with this 3:30 laptime at Lemans. Why not just allow the hypercar and LMDh cars to have another 30-50bhp over the LMP2 cars and have done with it. Why the need to slow down LMP2?
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Old 21 Apr 2021, 10:48 (Ref:4047049)   #7954
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Because they don't want faster cars?
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I don't understand the ACO's obsession with this 3:30 laptime at Lemans. Why not just allow the hypercar and LMDh cars to have another 30-50bhp over the LMP2 cars and have done with it. Why the need to slow down LMP2?

Because is a "theorical" delta that should give a certain stability about
future sustainability and performance wise. ACO 3:30 is a way to try to prevent manufacturers getting 2-3s faster a year (or even 5-6s as happened in 2014 to 2015). It's basically a way to prevent manufacturers spending crazy budget a year that usually leads to withdraw from the competition once expenses get unsustainable as recent history tells us.
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Old 22 Apr 2021, 06:25 (Ref:4047216)   #7956
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Sorry for off topic.
However, Toyota had used Super Taikyu race for racing hybrid system development before.
Is the era of hydrogen engine coming now?

Toyota Developing Hydrogen Engine Technologies Through Motorsports
https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/co.../35209996.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0yM5RlD7Zo

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Because is a "theorical" delta that should give a certain stability about
future sustainability and performance wise. ACO 3:30 is a way to try to prevent manufacturers getting 2-3s faster a year (or even 5-6s as happened in 2014 to 2015). It's basically a way to prevent manufacturers spending crazy budget a year that usually leads to withdraw from the competition once expenses get unsustainable as recent history tells us.
Totally understandable. But surely all that "sustainability" is going to be achieved through BOP anyway? So why not just BOP them at 3:25 or 3:20? How much extra horsepower would it take to knock off 5 seconds, 50bhp?
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Totally understandable. But surely all that "sustainability" is going to be achieved through BOP anyway? So why not just BOP them at 3:25 or 3:20? How much extra horsepower would it take to knock off 5 seconds, 50bhp?

To keep everythink sustainable, after homologation each LMH will have frozen specs up to 2024 (or 2025? can't remember exactly now). So none will be able to update their cars during the years or bring a basically fresh new car as porsche did in 2015 and 2017. Bop will be likely used to keep everyone in the same performance window.
Is hard speculate a LM timelap, if LMH will reveal to be slightly faster than 2017-2020 lmp2, is possible to expect a best absolute time in 3.24-3.25 maybe, with a 1 or 2s improvement by 2022 because of a better overall set-up and tires usage know how.
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If the lap time isn’t 3:24.7 I will be very angry and it will just show the ACO has got it all wrong. It’s a joke.
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If the lap time isn’t 3:24.7 I will be very angry and it will just show the ACO has got it all wrong. It’s a joke.

Consider that crazy 3.14-3.16 were achieved by toyota and SMP/rebellion in recent editions mainly because those cars could run flaout through porsche sector, considering the extra weight and the huge downforce loss, LMH will be far from reaching that insane speed in those turns again
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While we may lose a chunk of speed and lose the 'wow' factor of those LMP1 spaceships look like they are on rails through the final sector, we will see cars squirm a lot more. It was nice to see the GR 10's rear end fly about through Paul Ricard. As with any major rule change, you lose something, you gain something.
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Old 26 Apr 2021, 20:58 (Ref:4048000)   #7962
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Im not worried about 3:30 or whatever timed lap but more about the classes being too close. That doesnt just hurt the racing between classes, imo it brings about the question of having different classes in the first place. Lmp2 just as fast as 'hypercar'. Then they slow p2 again and GTE is just as fast as p2. Its a problem theyre creating they just fixed a few years ago.
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I’ve no problem with overlap in the classes. It’s endurance racing and I’m happy for them to be mixed up, often has been the case.

Of course, the argument to keep the classes separate is to keep the fighting within the class and not have others getting in the way of the battle. Doesn’t bother me too much either way I suppose.

I hope the ACO don’t mess too much and allow the gaps between classes to close.
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