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Old 10 Jul 2015, 04:27 (Ref:3557195)   #61
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Mixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridMixer should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
That thing is very bloody quick, but with a 308 in it its really a full size smaller than a lot of the V8 powered cars.
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Old 10 Jul 2015, 04:40 (Ref:3557199)   #62
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That thing is very bloody quick, but with a 308 in it its really a full size smaller than a lot of the V8 powered cars.
It is quick, that's why I thought natsoft must have been correct about the 5.8 litre engine.
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Old 10 Jul 2015, 11:08 (Ref:3557270)   #63
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Interesting to read the following in the TCM Rules:

"Modern graphics or colour schemes shall not be permitted and sponsorship signage must be at a level consistent with that experienced in the early 1970's period".

If you saw the Johnson, Bowe and Richards cars at Darwin round I'm sure all would agree they did not comply with this rule.

So why have such sensible rules if the leaders are going to completely ignore them?
Does it mean another competitor in a plain car could protest these three and have them disqualified?
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Old 10 Jul 2015, 11:22 (Ref:3557277)   #64
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Does it mean another competitor in a plain car could protest these three and have them disqualified?
i had a look at johnsons and richards cars , it didnt look much different in advertising style to Brocks 73 torana. Bowes one, is very borderline

Brocks 73 torana



here is a 76 torana similar to what Bowe is running lines look similar from a design point of view, but Bowe has more sponsors


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Old 11 Jul 2015, 01:19 (Ref:3557433)   #65
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When they first stickered up Mr Bowe's car, I wondered whether they were channelling the Bill Patterson cars from the era...



Indeed the fella who put the signs on that car seemed to be of a similar view at the time.
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Old 11 Jul 2015, 23:39 (Ref:3557635)   #66
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When they first stickered up Mr Bowe's car, I wondered whether they were channelling the Bill Patterson cars from the era...



Indeed the fella who put the signs on that car seemed to be of a similar view at the time.
You could possibly stretch the imagination and say that Bowe's Torana graphics are similar to the Bill Pattersoncar (and to Janes L34).

But what about Richards Javelin? I don't recall a scheme with vertical stripes such as this. See attached
http://www.touringcarmasters.com.au/...river-profiles
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Old 12 Jul 2015, 00:01 (Ref:3557639)   #67
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I dont recall seeing another AMC Javelin racing here back in the day..
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Old 12 Jul 2015, 02:16 (Ref:3557662)   #68
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I think TCM has moved on a bit since those initial guidelines..
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Old 12 Jul 2015, 03:11 (Ref:3557674)   #69
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I think TCM has moved on a bit since those initial guidelines..

This rule is NOT "initial guidelines"

It is actually in Appendix A of their current "Sporting and Technical Regulations". So why is it not controlled?
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Old 12 Jul 2015, 12:12 (Ref:3557821)   #70
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But what about Richards Javelin? I don't recall a scheme with vertical stripes such as this. See attached
http://www.touringcarmasters.com.au/...river-profiles
AMC Javelins racing in period in the USA regularly had vertically split paint schemes.

In any case, the article in the regs you quote says "shall" so there is an allowance for variation built into the regs right off the bat. If it said "will" that would be another thing entirely.......
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Old 13 Jul 2015, 02:33 (Ref:3558068)   #71
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AMC Javelins racing in period in the USA regularly had vertically split paint schemes.

In any case, the article in the regs you quote says "shall" so there is an allowance for variation built into the regs right off the bat. If it said "will" that would be another thing entirely.......
It seems the comments on graphics are superfluous as we unfortunately were looking at the out dated regulations.

The regulations on the TCM site are the 2014 regulations. They just haven't bothered to update them for the benefit of the interested.

For the 2015 regulations you have to look on the CAMS site.
http://docs.cams.com.au/Manual/Sport...ersion%203.pdf

The first 5 lines of Appendix A have now been eliminated

It seems the TCM regulations could be said to be in a state of flux.

There have been 3 versions so far of the 2015 regulations.
Version 1 issued 23 February
Version 2 issued 25 March
Version 3 issued 13 May

This version 3 was issued after the first two rounds of the 2015 series had actually taken place. There is nothing like making rules on the run......

So you can now have any graphics and signage that you want.

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Ive been wondering frm the very beginning Terry. Why are you interested in this?
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Old 13 Jul 2015, 02:45 (Ref:3558071)   #73
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So you can now have any graphics and signage that you want.
Well I am suitably relieved...
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Old 13 Jul 2015, 03:24 (Ref:3558077)   #74
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This version 3 was issued after the first two rounds of the 2015 series had actually taken place. There is nothing like making rules on the run......

Would this have been just in time to make the said Torana legal?
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Old 13 Jul 2015, 05:06 (Ref:3558090)   #75
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It seems the comments on graphics are superfluous as we unfortunately were looking at the out dated regulations.

The regulations on the TCM site are the 2014 regulations. They just haven't bothered to update them for the benefit of the interested.

For the 2015 regulations you have to look on the CAMS site.
http://docs.cams.com.au/Manual/Sport...ersion%203.pdf

The first 5 lines of Appendix A have now been eliminated

It seems the TCM regulations could be said to be in a state of flux.

There have been 3 versions so far of the 2015 regulations.
Version 1 issued 23 February
Version 2 issued 25 March
Version 3 issued 13 May

This version 3 was issued after the first two rounds of the 2015 series had actually taken place. There is nothing like making rules on the run......

So you can now have any graphics and signage that you want.
Included in the changes from 2014 were the elimination of nearly all of the first five lines of Appendix A which covered the graphics and signage regulations.
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