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Old 5 Dec 2016, 18:13 (Ref:3693951)   #1
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Your next Holden Supercar...

...caught in the wild in LA recently is the new Opel Insignia, the car that will carry the Commodore badge in the Holden lineup in it's next generation.


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Old 6 Dec 2016, 04:48 (Ref:3694075)   #2
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The front end looks like a MAZDA Grill,
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 06:19 (Ref:3694083)   #3
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I was thinking that from these pics the front and rear ends are very similar to the extinct FGX.
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 07:26 (Ref:3694095)   #4
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It's also a hatchback, maybe the Torana will come back .....
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 07:54 (Ref:3694102)   #5
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Or the Gemini.
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Its a bit Tesla, a bit Kia for mine. Not horrible, not great.
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 18:33 (Ref:3694255)   #7
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I don't like the hatcback rear.
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Old 6 Dec 2016, 19:41 (Ref:3694279)   #8
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Looks like a modern sedan to me?
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Here are the images on the Holden version, from Wheels: https://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/16...odore-revealed

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Old 6 Dec 2016, 23:33 (Ref:3694332)   #10
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wonder how long to we see a speced up one for Supercars. hopefully will look better when they add wings and wheels etc
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Old 7 Dec 2016, 00:33 (Ref:3694342)   #12
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"“In terms of size, it sits between a [1997] VT and the [2006] VE, which we think is the sweet spot.”"

So why not just say VY/VZ?
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This red one looks already better.
Would be nice looking SC.
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Its a bit Tesla, a bit Kia for mine. Not horrible, not great.
IMHO not a pinch on the KIA optima which it appears to have copied - not my cup of tea but the sheep will buy it as with the Holden badge it must be made in Australia. being Front wheel drive it will probably keep the Bogans in what they already drive
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With the recent announcement that GM is going to sell its European business (Opel and Vauxhall) to the PSA group which includes Peugeot and Citroen, has anyone ideas on what that may mean in the medium term for a Holden badged supercar. Remember that the Insignia/Commodore comes from Germany.
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Old 19 Mar 2017, 09:20 (Ref:3719964)   #18
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With the recent announcement that GM is going to sell its European business (Opel and Vauxhall) to the PSA group which includes Peugeot and Citroen, has anyone ideas on what that may mean in the medium term for a Holden badged supercar. Remember that the Insignia/Commodore comes from Germany.
In the medium term (this year and next) possibly nothing, in the long term, probably the end of their involvement, why would they continue when the series has no relevance to their stable of models.
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With the recent announcement that GM is going to sell its European business (Opel and Vauxhall) to the PSA group which includes Peugeot and Citroen, has anyone ideas on what that may mean in the medium term for a Holden badged supercar. Remember that the Insignia/Commodore comes from Germany.
Was announced here in Oz that the Opel deal would stand till at least 2022 with discussions beyond that to be had. So in the medium term no change from the current plans I would think. Beyond that, nothing definite at this stage BUT that timeframe IS 5 years away and a lot can happen in that time, both in the road car and the race car world.
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GM still has the Cruze, Malibu and Impala in the US based on separate (although related) platforms, I would have to imagine they would use the next generation for future Holdens rather than outsource to PSA/Opel.
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GM still has the Cruze, Malibu and Impala in the US based on separate (although related) platforms, I would have to imagine they would use the next generation for future Holdens rather than outsource to PSA/Opel.
More likely to be related to the Buick Regal (also a rebadged Opel Insignia) or the Lacrosse, a model which comes with V6 engines up to 3.8 litres and made in the US, China & Korea.
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The Insignia front end looks quite short (East West ONLY?)...will be interesting to see what sort of safety badge it gets to wear...
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The Insignia front end looks quite short (East West ONLY?)...will be interesting to see what sort of safety badge it gets to wear...
If you are referring to ANCAP, as from 2018 we will be aligned with NCAP, to share datta on vehicles.

https://www.ancap.com.au/

http://www.caradvice.com.au/448298/a...ope-from-2018/

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...a9bc420f063427
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More likely to be related to the Buick Regal (also a rebadged Opel Insignia) or the Lacrosse, a model which comes with V6 engines up to 3.8 litres and made in the US, China & Korea.
What I meant is that there are already 'evolutions' of the pure-Opel designed cars that GM could use, as opposed to the pure re-badging of the Insignia and Astra. Not that the Commodore would become a Lacrosse clone in future.
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