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View Poll Results: Who will win the 2018 VASC?
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Old 24 Nov 2018, 06:03 (Ref:3865390)   #51
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To be fair, Coulthard was still having his crash when Percat hit him.
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Old 24 Nov 2018, 06:38 (Ref:3865391)   #52
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Percat didn't hit Coulthard, Coulthard bounced back off the tyres into Percat. No excuse for Blanchard, possibly Courtney too as he was pretty late on the scene.
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Old 24 Nov 2018, 06:56 (Ref:3865394)   #53
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Old 24 Nov 2018, 07:00 (Ref:3865395)   #54
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DJRTP were very lucky to get across the line, played a high-risk fuel game.
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Old 24 Nov 2018, 08:20 (Ref:3865403)   #55
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DJRTP were very lucky to get across the line, played a high-risk fuel game.
Yeah, Ryan Story was pretty bullish about it, but SVG & 888 played the safe hand today.
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Old 24 Nov 2018, 08:33 (Ref:3865405)   #56
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Where in the rules does it say you have to put 140 litres in in 2 stops??

Surely Red Bull put in their 140 and then crunched the calculators, thought they wouldn't get home and decided to make a quick 3rd stop.

Everyone is calling the 2nd stop a miscue.
I doubt it.
Surely the 3rd one was the stroke of genius...

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Any penalty for Blanchard?

Or will another instance of total disregard for yellow flags go unpunished?
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Old 24 Nov 2018, 08:39 (Ref:3865407)   #58
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Where in the rules does it say you have to put 140 litres in in 2 stops??

Surely Red Bull put in their 140 and then crunched the calculators, pulled up short and decided to make a quick 3rd stop.

Everyone is calling the 2nd stop a miscue.
I doubt it.
Surely the 3rd one was the stroke of genius...
It's the minimum fuel drop over the entire race. If you can do it in 2 stops, good luck to you. The reality is, you can't always get 140L into the tank, so 6L or so goes back up the vent hose. This is what tripped the #17 up. They could've used 1 or 2 of those vented litres.
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Old 24 Nov 2018, 08:47 (Ref:3865410)   #59
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So 140 litres leaves the fuel rig but doesn't all get in the car's tank??

That makes sense.

If that's the case, the Penske lads need a new calculator.

And Mr Story has a large amount of egg on his face...
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So... is #12 fixable?
There was a bit of noise circuit side suggesting the side intrusion bars were bent.
I thought stuff like that shouldn’t/couldn’t be fixed locally?
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SVG under investigation for dropping the car while fuel hose was still attached:

https://www.supercars.com/news/champ...investigation/

The rule seems a little bit vague and this is borderline at best in my view.

Dutto seems pretty bullish about it though.

If there's no penalty the conspiracy theorists will lose their ****.
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Old 24 Nov 2018, 09:09 (Ref:3865414)   #62
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There were a number of Xtrac transmission people on the grid today. Wonder whose car(s) their gear is in this weekend?
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There were a number of Xtrac transmission people on the grid today. Wonder whose car(s) their gear is in this weekend?
Why would they take it out of the Kelly Krate?
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Old 24 Nov 2018, 09:13 (Ref:3865419)   #65
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Why would they take it out of the Kelly Krate?
I thought I had read Supercar were trialling the box with a number of teams
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It's on now.

Breach established for SVG and has been referred to the stewards, who will convene tomorrow morning.

https://www.supercars.com/news/champ...?sf202944368=1

They defintely didn't need to be in such a hurry, pit lane was closed!
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Did they just drop 97 with the fuel hose i
Saw that as well and raised an eyebrow...
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Percat didn't hit Coulthard, Coulthard bounced back off the tyres into Percat. No excuse for Blanchard, possibly Courtney too as he was pretty late on the scene.
Pathetic display from Blanchard
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It's on now.

Breach established for SVG and has been referred to the stewards, who will convene tomorrow morning.

https://www.supercars.com/news/champ...?sf202944368=1

They defintely didn't need to be in such a hurry, pit lane was closed!
So much for RD saying there is no issue. The rule is clear “the vehicle must remain on the air jacks until the fuel rig is removed “ if this doesn’t happen they are to raise the car
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Nope that isn't what the rule says. It says you can't refuel while the car is on its wheels.

It is actually a bit grey.

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Nope that isn't what the rule says. It says you can't refuel while the car is on its wheels.

It is actually a bit grey.
Surely removing the fuel hose is part of the refuelling process.
But no doubt T888 will get away with another breach yet again.
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Grey area?
Supercars regs?

.........

Also this happened halfway through the race - why post race investigation?

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Did Supercars see it for themselves or did a motivated dobber choose to interpret the regulations for them?
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.........

Also this happened halfway through the race - why post race investigation?
Exactly, getting tired of this, giving post race penalties for something that happened well before the end doesn't give the driver any chance to recover from the penalty. It's either a rule breach or it isn't, if they can't decide within 3 laps, then the rule isn't clear enough and the investigation should be dropped and the rule sorted out before the next meeting.
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