Memorable Tourist Trophy meetings?

**chunterer** · 12 May 2006, 07:38 (Ref:1606737)

Last weekend was a pretty good Silverstone TT meeting, the Saleen chasing down the MC12 for the win in the main FIA GT event and a couple of cracking GT3 support races.

1988 was a good one and both '83 and '84 had plenty nof dramas in the main events.

Are there any favourite meetings and moments over the years?

glyn parham · 12 May 2006, 08:05 (Ref:1606754)

1984 for me chunterer, especially when the heavens opened and cars flew off at Woodcote. Just a shame that Hans stuck had to come in for his driver change at that very moment.

This photo from the grandstand shows what I mean.

glyn

**chunterer** · 12 May 2006, 12:10 (Ref:1606954)

Yes, quite amazing sequence of events wasn't it?!

I was just a bit further around Woodcote opposite the pits and only caught glimpses of the shunts from a distance.

However the video of the event graphically illustrates the carnage and one or two lucky escapes!!

Alan Raine · 12 May 2006, 13:23 (Ref:1607014)

1973 (I think) with the Group 2 Cologne Capris and Batmobile BMW's with Frank Gardeners SCA Camaro and Brain Muirs BMW joining in.

Fantastic machines at the time.

Steve Wilkinson · 12 May 2006, 14:31 (Ref:1607083)

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Originally Posted by Alan Raine

1973 (I think) with the Group 2 Cologne Capris and Batmobile BMW's with Frank Gardeners SCA Camaro and Brain Muirs BMW joining in.

Fantastic machines at the time.

... and don't forget the works Alfa Romeos three wheeling round Stowe in formation!

**chunterer** · 12 May 2006, 14:43 (Ref:1607093)

That must've been excellent to witness!

Alan Raine · 12 May 2006, 15:08 (Ref:1607113)

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Originally Posted by Steve Wilkinson

... and don't forget the works Alfa Romeos three wheeling round Stowe in formation!

I'd forgotten those. I was marshalling at Stowe out. The great days of Group 2.

A few photos from the Paddock.

And one for Mr Weyman

**chunterer** · 12 May 2006, 15:15 (Ref:1607121)

Nice shots Alan!

Reminds me, i've gotta get hold of the 1:18 Cologne Capri that Minichamps or somefirm like that have recently released, along with the Grp A Schnitzer 635 mechanical skeleton liveried car!!

glyn parham · 12 May 2006, 20:49 (Ref:1607389)

Alan.

I was there in 1973 as well and well remember Muir going off at Woodcote and taking most of the pit straight to get the BMW back on track again!

1984 just shaded it though for me despite having two races in the old Group 2 days.

Glyn

Splendid Cat · 14 May 2006, 06:04 (Ref:1609226)

77 for me - my first race ever and what a race.
XJ12c's 'v' Gusser CSL.
Would Rouse have caught Walkinshaw?
A win would have changed the way the Broadspeed Jags are remembered. Irrespective, what a noise they made.

gfm · 18 May 2006, 06:41 (Ref:1613159)

I first remember the TT held at Goodwood; works Ferrari TestaRossas, little Porsches specifically. Awesome stuff from a lot of foreign sounding type drivers. Left an impression and romance for this kid!
I can't remember but I also recall Bruce McLaren's prototype can-am car, but I'n not sure it was in a TT; him and that Clark chap in a Lotus 30 . . . ?

**John Turner** · 18 May 2006, 07:56 (Ref:1613201)

John, if that Goodwood TT was in 1959, those Ferrari TRs and Porsches were very soundly beaten by my favourite 50's sports racing car, the Aston Martin DBR1/300. In fact come to think of the Aston won in 1957 and 1958, as well.

Surprisingly, I've only ever been to one TT and that was last year, to see the European debut of the DBR9s, and they duly delivered. That really was memorable for me.

**chunterer** · 18 May 2006, 08:05 (Ref:1613205)

I thought the same about last year John and it was a damn fine race too!-

I was pleased that they called it the TT rather than the BRDC 'nearly 3 hours' or International Trophy or something!

For me the current GT cars are the eqiuvalent of the old touring car classes Grp2/Grp A certainly in terms of the spirit and sounds!!

TT was always a race I looked forward to as a little un, even though i'm not a huge fan of endurance racing (i just kike the cars that are in them!) and during what I consider to be the heyday of touring car racing in the '80's I made sure I was taken to every one from '84-88 until it disappeared for a while

**John Turner** · 18 May 2006, 08:22 (Ref:1613217)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

For me the current GT cars are the eqiuvalent of the old touring car classes Grp2/Grp A certainly in terms of the spirit and sounds!!

No, no, they are not! Thay are the true successors to the great front engined rear wheel drive GTs of the early to mid 60's. Yes, I know that not all the modern GTs are in that configuration, but the new generation, as far as I'm concerned, was kicked of by the Dodge Viper

Sorry, off topic, normal service is now resumed!

**chunterer** · 18 May 2006, 11:29 (Ref:1613365)

Yes you're right in that respect John, I can only dream of the Vette's, GTO's etc in their pomp as I wasn't on this earth in those days!!

But purely personally, I think the GT's, as competed in the TT this year and last, are the only current series similar to the old ETC because there is no current equivalent in terms of variety, size and spectacle?

Current 2 litre stuff just isn't the same!!

gfm · 19 May 2006, 06:50 (Ref:1613987)

I agree; the modern BTCC is dreadful stock car stuff. There's more variety, more interesting vehicles running around Hyde Park Corner this very second than the fleet of rep-Hondas, Vauxhalls that constitute UK touring car barge racing. What it that about? Get's the crowds though, imagine if they used interesting powerful cars?
GTs are altogether really bright in the last few years (I enjoyed extensive Porsche racing myself against McLaren, Ferrari, Vipers etc and loved it).
My perfect GT series would include a street race or two, a decent couple of Targa Florio/Milgia Milgia road races, a trip or two to the Nurburgring at night etc.
But it all started for me at Goodwood with Moss and Hawthorn, Hill, Gendebien, Ferrari, Aston and Jaguar with them drifting through Madgewick, all throttle adjustable attitudes.
I loved the idea that they'd be racing at Goodwood at Easter, then off around the world racing in these far off places, Monza, Nurburgring, Osterreichring, Sebring and Daytona. The Martini Porsche 917 team cars I thought did some super racing miles during the course of a season, a year long campaign. After that BOAC 500 or Daytona 24 hours, I thought those cars had really 'traveled'.
Current GT get closest; really good. And the TT perhaps has one of the most evocative histories of them all.

RobThorn · 14 Jun 2009, 20:48 (Ref:2483302)

I enjoyed the 1988 race between the RS500's. Is it possible to get coverage of this race? I recorded the coveraged on BBC Grandstand but taped over it.

drivers71 · 29 Jun 2009, 13:22 (Ref:2493283)

Some of my Toursist Trophy photos from Silverstone.
Most memorable were the first two I saw.

1972 - http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/j...rist%20Trophy/
1973 - http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/j...20Silverstone/
1977 - http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/j...20Silverstone/
1978 - http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/j...20Silverstone/
1979 - http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/j...20Silverstone/
1981 - http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/j...20Silverstone/
1984 - http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/j...20Silverstone/

There are probably a few more TTs if you care to browse for them.

drivers71 · 29 Jun 2009, 14:16 (Ref:2493319)

**chunterer** · 1 Jul 2009, 10:04 (Ref:2494370)

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Originally Posted by RobThorn

I enjoyed the 1988 race between the RS500's. Is it possible to get coverage of this race? I recorded the coveraged on BBC Grandstand but taped over it.

I don't know if there was a specific 1988 TT release on VHS (there were for some previous years) but there is some of it on the Duke '88 ETC DVD, which is an excellent review of that year - the last ETC for Group A!

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