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11 Nov 2004, 11:47 (Ref:1150295) | #1 | ||
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Where will the GPWC run races?
What happens if the GPWC goes ahead?
Which racetracks will they run on-i assume that alot of the current f1 tracks have it written in their contracts that they can't run any rival series events..? Does anyone know anything about this? Of course they could run on any decent track*,of which there are quite a few but for sure they'll want to run at monaco,spa and such places I wonder if any attempt by bern to stop tracks from running a GPWC event would be seen by the european union as a contravention of anti trust regulations (can't think of the right words-this is an american term)? *In case you're wondering-the tracks don't have to conform to any fia regulations as the fia have no say in what the GPWC does -unless the GPWC invites them to do it.Don't believe a thing max says about it-the fia has no preordained right to run motosport!!That would definitely be an antitrust violation. |
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It won't need a different set of tracks.
GPWC - if it ever went ahead - would replace F1, not compete with it. The GPWC is a bargaining tool. |
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11 Nov 2004, 12:47 (Ref:1150343) | #3 | ||
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But you could have a pretty attractive European core of races with Brands Hatch, Zandvoort, Estoril, Jerez, Imola, Dijon-Prenois... Throw in Road America and we're laughing.
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Sorry if my post was blatantly anti bernie/fia(i do hate them tho).
Not what i was trying to get at in this question But KB- If the tracks WEREN'T allowed to have other races....you can bet bernie would run something(anything) and call it f1 ....so the GPWC couldn't use those tracks That would be HIS bargaining tool See what i mean? It could get really bogged down with both sides thinking they have a handfull of aces I forgot about road america!! Hey this could be good after all...add laguna seca maybe + there are other good ones around i'm sure? How about they detune the cars drastically (for this event only) so they can race at the Nordschlief! Last edited by RWC; 11 Nov 2004 at 14:05. |
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Basically the problem is, which sponsors would continue supporting F1 (and which Tv channels would continue purchasing broadcasting rights) if what bernie woudl set up was a championship without Ferrari, Macs, FW, Renault, bar etc?
My thought is that, no matter what Bernie would like to do, he should give up for lack of the founding principle of F1: money. |
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There will only be one series, the banks are in court shortly in a case against BE over control of F1, they hold 75% and he (SLEC) has 25%, yet some how the banks don't have control - lawyers must have been asleep?
If they win, it's assumed they will do a deal with the GPWC which will reform F1, and effectively be a merger of the two 'factions'. |
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GPWC will replace FI when Bernie "retires". The power struggle will go to the manufacturers and they will dictate where they race.
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One thing is for sure - the manufacturers won't be any more intersted in running races that don't have favourable condidtions for their business interests. That means tobacco advertising, and whatever other factors work out best for the business aims. If you think that this new governing body might have a refreshing standpoint on things like classic circuits for their own sake, or indeed other contentious issues like driver aids, I fear you are delusional.
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RWC--The issue of exclusivity in circuit promoters' contracts formed part of the European Commission's antitrust investigation of the FIA under Articles 81 and 82 of the EC Treaty.
This investigation was closed in 2001 after the FIA comitted to various undertakings, including the removal of exclusivity clauses from contracts with promoters. Any attempt to re-introduce exclusivity would be jumped on immediately by the Commission. As such, there is no legal impediment to F1 circuits hosting GPWC events. (By the way, "antitrust" is used in Europe, but the more common term here is competition law). Last edited by Gore; 11 Nov 2004 at 17:21. |
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Not at Albert Park, that's for sure! Ron Walker said about a fortnight ago that he didn't think GPWC has any legs and if it does, it won't be having a meet in Melbourne (I'm paraphrasing, but that's the general gist of it).
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If the GPWC was to race at different tracks, you would find that the tracks would be great, Adelaide, Brands hatch, Rio de janerio, Zandvoort, Brno, Zhuai, Paul ricard, the list goes on. (Although Brands would cost a bomb to race on the GP circuit and safety issues and Paul ricard would be hard seeing as Bernie owns it). |
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