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Old 20 Apr 2023, 17:55 (Ref:4152289)   #126
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Well, now that you mention it, the tailgate design is unclear for now.
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Old 20 Apr 2023, 20:13 (Ref:4152300)   #127
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But rear "windscreen" is foldable?
They mean that under normal conditions, the driver (when looking in the rear view mirror) gets an image from the camera. When they push a button, the rear view mirror shows the back seats (and occupants) instead.
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Old 25 Apr 2023, 20:34 (Ref:4153001)   #128
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Old 26 Apr 2023, 03:53 (Ref:4153024)   #129
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The most noticeable thing on the car is the lack of the usually prominent Mercedes Tri-Star logo on the grille.
Are they ashamed of the car and need to distance themselves?
It looks very bland, unremarkable, and anonymous from the outside, no different looking from other large bland unremarkable looking sedans.... but I guess they (Merc) have the AMG variants to fill that void.

I just thought it an omission of what has become so associated from pretty much every other Mercedes vehicle launched in recent years.

Edit: comment made after viewing pic on a phone. Looking on a larger screen shows a very small raised bonnet emblem. Still a departure from the norm unless I just dont look at Mercs closely enough these days
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Old 26 Apr 2023, 04:05 (Ref:4153025)   #130
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The most noticeable thing on the car is the lack of the usually prominent Mercedes Tri-Star logo on the grille.
Are they ashamed of the car and need to distance themselves?
It looks very bland, unremarkable, and anonymous from the outside, no different looking from other large bland unremarkable looking sedans.... but I guess they (Merc) have the AMG variants to fill that void.

I just thought it an omission of what has become so associated from pretty much every other Mercedes vehicle launched in recent years.

Edit: comment made after viewing pic on a phone. Looking on a larger screen shows a very small raised bonnet emblem. Still a departure from the norm unless I just dont look at Mercs closely enough these days
On most models, the grille star is standard. The bonnet emblem has been an option, and has typically only been available on the higher spec trims.
There was rumour that the bonnet emblem would only be available on the S-Class, and would be removed as an option on the E-Class during the next cycle of updates.
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Old 3 May 2023, 18:18 (Ref:4154367)   #131
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They mean that under normal conditions, the driver (when looking in the rear view mirror) gets an image from the camera. When they push a button, the rear view mirror shows the back seats (and occupants) instead.
May be interesting depending on who is sitted behind…
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Old 8 May 2023, 20:35 (Ref:4155085)   #132
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Not sure you would classify this as a luxury sedan. The new Hyundai Ioniq 6. What an ugly looking car, in my opinion. Jelly mould comes to mind. Remember the Sierra, same comments. That eventually sold in thousands, maybe the Iconiq will. Somehow I don't think so.
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Old 26 May 2023, 14:03 (Ref:4158059)   #133
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BMW 5 Series / i5

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300-490 hp hybrid engines, 19 kWh battery
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The front end looks nice to me. But the rear end is a mixture of Audi and Lexus.
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Old 29 May 2023, 12:53 (Ref:4158734)   #134
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Old 11 Sep 2023, 18:11 (Ref:4176339)   #136
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Lotus made in China, now… Front end looks like a poor Lambo copy (sorry, inspiration). Pffffff.
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Lotus made in China, now… Front end looks like a poor Lambo copy (sorry, inspiration). Pffffff.

Well, they are owned to a great extent by Geely, so it should not be a surprise. I'm surprised that they haven't moved the production of London type taxis to China yet, as they own that too!
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Ha yes, we have some of these TX'es here. Waiting to hear the sat nav speaking with a tough cockney accent though! Would be great.
Found the name of the black cabs in Paris, they're called CaoCao. https://www.lesnumeriques.com/voitur...s-n146077.html Few interesting info but at least a good picture showing Eiffel tower. I think the spot is pont de Bir Hakeim, structure due to Gustave Eiffel and interesting story and supporting both a dual carriage and tube line.

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Looks like someone dropped the Lambo clay model and didn't fix it right, or a bad fax. Everything looks weirdly squished
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Now you say… may be they tried to mould a Lambo but at speed! 900 hp… Far from a Prius, huh? Crazy planet.
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Now this electric car enlightens me about the fact that in movies like Bullitt the bad guys drive a Charger when good people drive a 'Stang! Bad guy, bad taste, the era changes noting!
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The 3 door looks right...the 5 door just looks wrong.
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A sneak peek at the next police cruiser coming to a town near you. I've gotten used to the 4-door Charger and prefer it to the current Challenger, so I don't mind this sedan.


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The Hurricane V6 seems to be the same story as the Ford Ecoboost engines in that it performs much better for the EPA testing but real world efficiency is roughly the same as an equivalent V8.
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A sneak peek at the next police cruiser coming to a town near you. I've gotten used to the 4-door Charger and prefer it to the current Challenger, so I don't mind this sedan.




The Hurricane V6 seems to be the same story as the Ford Ecoboost engines in that it performs much better for the EPA testing but real world efficiency is roughly the same as an equivalent V8.
Yeah, somehow the Charger got better, or less worse, while the Challenger just seems to bloat. Something is not quite right with it and think it's the inflata-car looks to it. Needs to be more square and tight

And just to be different and cause Mopar, it's an I6 and likely going to be in all the way from base why bother old base Slant 6 of yore all the way to a new TRX tuned to 11 TT setup

Last tank with the new Hemi was just under 18 of some highway and mostly city so not too much off my old EcoDiesel. Last tank of all city in my 2020 Escape 3 cylinder EcoBoost was 22. And the thing loves to lug and fall flat on it's face before chugging down fuel at 3 mpg cause turbo time
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